Area of disturbed weather in SW Caribbean (Is invest 94L)

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#181 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:55 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#182 Postby Cyclone1 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:26 pm

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#183 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:28 pm

it looks like it is starting to lift out to the north...and gradually organizing if you ask me.

I see a distinct spin and convection has grown. Shear does not seem to be quite as bad now as it was a few days ago.

Models are showing the shear really dropping over towards the end of the week.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#184 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:32 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#185 Postby Hurricanehink » Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:56 pm

Definitely a neat scenario having two potential areas of formation on June 1st! For comparison, here are the TWO's for the past seven years.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/text/TWOAT/TWOAT.201006011733.txt - 10% for the remnants of Agatha in 2010

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/text/TWOAT/TWOAT.200906012355.txt - <30% for a non-tropical low near Azores in 2009

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2008/al01/al012008.discus.004.shtml? - better than a TWO, we had Tropical Storm Arthur over Mexico in 2008

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2007/al02/al022007.discus.001.shtml? - ditto 2007, we had Tropical Storm Barry in the Gulf of Mexico in 2007

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/text/TWOAT/2006/TWOAT.200606012114.txt - nada in 2006

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/text/TWOAT/2005/TWOAT.200506011411 - ditto 2005

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/text/TWOAT/2004/TWOAT.200406011452 - we had a tropical wave in the tropical Atlantic in 2004

Before 2007, the last time a (sub)tropical cyclone was active on the start of the hurricane season was 1997, but that was a subtropical cyclone that was upgraded post-season. Before that was TD 1 in 1993, which formed in late May and lasted until June 1 after moving across Cuba. The same thing happened in 1988, 1987, and 1969, and finally in 1968 Hurricane Abby developed on June 1st in the western Caribbean.

(data per http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/research/r ... _final.txt)
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#187 Postby ronjon » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:54 pm

12Z NAM for what its worth.

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#188 Postby flwxwatcher » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:58 pm



Yea, Crazy Uncle brings it to South Florida and GFS east of Florida.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_12z/cmcloop.html

The models haven't been consistent on strength or direction and have been flip flopping, which is to be expected with a developing system . It will be interesting to see when we see a consensus with the models emerge with this system.
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#189 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:03 pm

Strap in, fellas, it's going to be an interesting ride.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#190 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:17 pm

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#191 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:39 pm

I really hope it stays weak and dumps *alot* of rain for us here in South Florida. I have never seen it so dry in all the years I have lived here. We can use the rain.

SAT images continue to show that moisture is building in this area and the shear is not quite as strong because the cloud tops are not getting blown off to the ENE as quickly. It looks like something may actually get going here in my opinion. I am always amazed how the models can predict this so far out (remember some of the models showed this a week ago)......

and usually if multiple models are showing it, something is up.....question now is what happens if it develops. Does it even make it out of the Caribbean at all? Models are usually too quick to eject systems out of the Western Caribbean...in this case some models keep in there for a week or even longer. A track South of Florida through Cuba and the Bahamas is one climatologically favored track.
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#192 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:43 pm

gatorcane wrote:I really hope it stays weak and dumps *alot* of rain for us here in South Florida. I have never seen it so dry in all the years I have lived here. We can use the rain.

SAT images continue to show that moisture is building in this area and the shear is not quite as strong. It looks like something may actually get going here in my opinion. I am always amazed how the models can predict this so far out (remember some of the models showed this a week ago)......

and usually if multiple models are showing it, something is up.....


SE Florida, NW Florida and the entire Gulf coast are in an extreme drought....we all need the rain and soon!

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#193 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:51 pm

Can't remember the last time basically the ENTIRE gulf of mexico region needs rain so badly. Currently 97 degrees here as I look out the window at an absolutely parched landscape...

HOPEFULLY somehow this system will make it into the gulf and bring about lots of tropical rain for the entire region. Something has got to give soon right? I too can never remember it so dry in Louisiana.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#194 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:53 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Can't remember the last time basically the ENTIRE gulf of mexico region needs rain so badly. Currently 97 degrees here as I look out the window at an absolutely parched landscape...

HOPEFULLY somehow this system will make it into the gulf and bring about lots of tropical rain for the entire region. Something has got to give soon right? I too can never remember it so dry in Louisiana.


Yeah..everyone along the Gulf coast needs rain asap. A nice sloppy spread out tropical storm would be nice in the Gulf. 100 degrees officially at Pensacola right now...102 at Tallahassee :double:
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#195 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:28 pm

18z GFS coming in even stronger than the 12z run through 144 hours

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#196 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:33 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#197 Postby weatherwindow » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:36 pm

http://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/5 just for grins....old farmers almanac.... florida hurricane threats june 10-13 and june 21-24...not one but two nuts for the blind squirrel.......rich
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#198 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:42 pm

8:00 PM EDT TWO.

A LARGE AREA OF CLOUDINESS AND SHOWERS OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN AND
WEST-CENTRAL CARIBBEAN SEA IS ASSOCIATED WITH A SURFACE TROUGH. SOME
GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE AS IT REMAINS NEARLY
STATIONARY. ALTHOUGH THERE IS ONLY A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF
THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE FORECAST TO BECOME MORE FAVORABLE FOR
DEVELOPMENT AFTER THAT TIME.

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#199 Postby Florida1118 » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:21 pm

weatherwindow wrote:http://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/5 just for grins....old farmers almanac.... florida hurricane threats june 10-13 and june 21-24...not one but two nuts for the blind squirrel.......rich

Well they got the heavy thunderstorms for Florida right...but definatly not the "cool" part

JUNE 2011: temperature 79 ° (2 ° below avg.); precipitation 14.5" (8" above avg.); Jun 1-3: Heavy t-storms, cool; Jun 4-9: Sunny north, a few t-storms south; Jun 10-13: Hurricane threat; Jun 14-20: Sunny north, t-storms south; cool; Jun 21-24: Hurricane threat; Jun 25-30: Scattered t-storms, warm.

JULY 2011: temperature ; precipitation .

And it looks like in july we'll be having a temperatures and precipitation! Shocking!
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#200 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:42 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:Can't remember the last time basically the ENTIRE gulf of mexico region needs rain so badly. Currently 97 degrees here as I look out the window at an absolutely parched landscape...

HOPEFULLY somehow this system will make it into the gulf and bring about lots of tropical rain for the entire region. Something has got to give soon right? I too can never remember it so dry in Louisiana.


Yeah..everyone along the Gulf coast needs rain asap. A nice sloppy spread out tropical storm would be nice in the Gulf. 100 degrees officially at Pensacola right now...102 at Tallahassee :double:


To add to this, over here in south LA into south MS we had numerous record highs broken. For here in Baton Rouge we broke the record all the way back from 1908 hitting 100 today :cold: And just think it is only June 1. Only four more months of this. Under a statewide burn ban now until further notice.
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