Area of disturbed weather in SW Caribbean (Is invest 94L)

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#221 Postby Extratropical94 » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:10 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
Extratropical94 wrote:Did the NHC somehow screw up their designations and percentages?
The map says No. 1 is in the GOM with 20% and No. 2 is the Caribbean disturbance with 10%.
The TWO text designates them vice versa.


I put the wrong one here originally. I changed it. It was my mistake and now has the correct TWO info.


Yes, but the NHC had it wrong as well a few mins ago. Now they changed it.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/gtwo/at ... 1106021757
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#222 Postby Javlin » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:18 pm

Definitly looking like some low level turning alibiet broad in size has started at 15'N 82'W
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#223 Postby Nimbus » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:31 pm

Guess they will fix the graphic later this afternoon. 20% does that mean we get an invest soon?
I never seem to know which forum to be in active storm or just sayin.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#224 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:07 pm

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ASCAT backs up WindSat with an llc, although its disorganized. I expect a convective boost within the next few hours. The main demon to me seems like the mid level shear.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#225 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:06 pm

The models continue with the back and forth on both intensity and on tracks. That is why I wont post them anymore until there is a real consensus. If others want to post them,good. :)
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#226 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:12 pm

Here is a great loop,where you can see the surface low and also a mid-level circulation south of Haiti.

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#227 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:13 pm

cycloneye wrote:The models continue with the back and forth on both intensity and on tracks. That is why I wont post them anymore until there is a real consensus. If others want to post them,good. :)


UKMET, Euro, CMC, GFS all are in pretty good agreement that a broad low pressure system will slowly move NNW toward the Yucatan. I actually thought today offered the best realistic consensus of the globals so far regarding this disturbance.
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#228 Postby KWT » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:14 pm

That mid level circulation is probably getting a good boost from the TW that is in place there.

Circulation is pretty obvious, going to see how it acts in the next 24hrs.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#229 Postby tailgater » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:43 pm

Now that the shear has drop off a good bit this system is struggling to produce T-storms, but I guess we'll see if the D-max can jump start her.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#230 Postby TheBurn » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:12 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#231 Postby MGC » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:29 pm

That little convectionless swirl off the Nicaragua coast looks to be orbiting aroung a broad area of low pressure. Doubt it developes....I'm thinking if anything does form it will be futher east perhaps south of Jamaica in a couple of days. It sometimes takes a while for a broad area to tighten up.....MGC
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#232 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:33 pm

12z Euro takes it North into the Central Gulf

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#233 Postby KWT » Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:20 pm

MGC wrote:That little convectionless swirl off the Nicaragua coast looks to be orbiting aroung a broad area of low pressure. Doubt it developes....I'm thinking if anything does form it will be futher east perhaps south of Jamaica in a couple of days. It sometimes takes a while for a broad area to tighten up.....MGC


9 times out of 10 I find its the little convectionless swirl that ends up being the main feature, the MLC looks good with all the convection but thats prone to going poof and leaving the MLC to die, I'd suspect the LLC will be the main focus to watch as the TW that is sparking the convection heads westwards towards the LLC.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#234 Postby TheBurn » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:17 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#235 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:39 pm

8 PM EDT TWO

A BROAD LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER THE WEST-CENTRAL AND SOUTHWESTERN
CARIBBEAN SEA IS PRODUCING A LARGE BUT DISORGANIZED AREA OF SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE LIKELY TO BECOME MORE
CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS...AND THERE IS A
LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...
HEAVY RAINFALL COULD PRODUCE FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES OVER
PORTIONS OF HAITI...THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND JAMAICA OVER THE
NEXT DAY OR TWO AS THE LOW REMAINS NEARLY STATIONARY.

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#236 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:39 pm

Agree, the LLC or swirl near 14N 81W should be the feature that kicks off something over the weekend once the shear lets up and the TW enhances it with energy.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#237 Postby MGC » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:49 pm

Unless that little eddy developes some convection to sustain the circulation it should dissipate as it rotates around the broad gyre. Small chance of it to become the dominate CC IMO.....MGC
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Re: Area of disturbed weather in the SW Caribbean

#238 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:30 pm

MGC wrote:Unless that little eddy developes some convection to sustain the circulation it should dissipate as it rotates around the broad gyre. Small chance of it to become the dominate CC IMO.....MGC


It is exactly where the NHC says the Low is sitting.
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#239 Postby Hurricane » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:18 pm

MGC, I don't understand why you're doubting this storm. With all of the model agreement and favorable forecast, I would be watching out.
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#240 Postby Hylian Auree » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:27 pm

Hurricane wrote:MGC, I don't understand why you're doubting this storm. With all of the model agreement and favorable forecast, I would be watching out.

He/She is just pointing out that at this rate the current distinct surface circulation in the broader cyclonic flow is unlikely to become the support or circulation center of the entire thing, even if it were to the develop into something. The system itself still has a good chance at development, however, especially with the lifting shear and good support (ul diffluence, tw energy etc.).
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