Gulf Disturbance Week of June 27th (Is invest 95L)

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#281 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:39 pm

180 hours:

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#282 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:40 pm

Ridge is getting elongated from SW to NE over Missouri allowing the ridge to break down in the Gulf...interesting

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#283 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:42 pm

Landfall Brownsville
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#284 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:43 pm

And 192 hours...We have landfall at Brownsville:

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#285 Postby MississippiWx » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:46 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Landfall Brownsville


About a 100 mile northward jump from the 12z GFS. Of course, the 18z is normally the worst run. We'll have to see if it's a trend on the 00z. All in all, I think it's safe to say that we will more than likely have a TD to deal with at the end of this weekend or Monday.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#286 Postby tailgater » Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:51 pm

pressure dropped a good bit the last 12hrs also, I imagine we'll get a few more changes in the coming days.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#287 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:41 pm

Already the development potential is present.

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#288 Postby KatDaddy » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:14 pm

Model consistency continues to grow today. Looking more and more like TS Arlene may be in the WGOM next week. We need rain here in TX and Arlene would be very welcomed. Time to model watch in more detail this weekend.
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#289 Postby flwxwatcher » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:17 pm

KWT wrote:FWIW the ECM was too far south with Alex as well by a fair amount...though the GFS was too far north to balance things out...

Very true, though since Alex the GFS did get upgraded. A nice little test to see if the poleward bias has been corrected??
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#290 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:17 pm

Still need the Euro to jump aboard with the low further north.
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#291 Postby NDG » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:04 pm

Tonight I feel confident that a tropical cyclone is looking very likely to develop in the next 3-5 days in the Western Caribbean/BOC due to the models' persistence.
As far as a track is concerned I feel that the ECMWF is too far south while the GFS might be too far north that leaves the CMC in the middle of the two which might have the right idea, though I feel that as usual the CMC is too fast with the movement of the possible tropical system past 72 hrs.
The euro past its 96-120 hr forecast has been too strong with ridges in the past month at least while the GFS is too weak, most times.
If a weakness develops in the NW GOM if the southern ridge gains some latitude by the end of next week I think the possible system will gain latitude inching closer to S TX.


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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#292 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:11 pm

Lots of uncertainties. The fact that the models haven't dropped the notion of development this close (3-4 days) from the event is a concern. GFS is the slowest of the models with the system, probably too slow. Trend is toward a slightly stronger ridge over TX/LA by later next week. That would mean a threat to northern Mexico or the lower TX coast vs. up here. I'm thinking 40% development chances next Mon-Wed. Probably will flare up considerably just before moving into the Yucatan late Saturday.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#293 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:43 pm

00z GFS makes landfall at Brownsville at 186 hours. This run looks very similar to the 18z run.
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#294 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:49 pm

0zGFS with the strongest run yet with a 997mb low.

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#295 Postby ROCK » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:15 am

lest not forget Alex as it emerged off the Yuc and had those center reformations. I remember that very well....models are all over this so safe to say we will have something in the BOC and WGOM next week. Being its June/July I tend to think a MX or Lower TX coast attm.....EURO out in a few....not staying up for it this early....save it for the weekend... :D
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#296 Postby dwsqos2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:52 am

Euro still pretty much has zip; we might just have to keep waiting
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#297 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:32 am

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6 days, much farther south than previous runs
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#298 Postby Vortex » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:10 am

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The trend is usually your friend and the GFS has continued to suggest development next week over the boc. IMO, I expect a surface reflection to take shape by late Sunday near the Yucatan. By Tuesday evening I expect a developing TD about 200 miles ESE of Tampico. In the longer range I'm calling a TS to approach the Brownsville area late next week. It appears copious rainfall in excess of 10" is a good bet from northern Mexico to Corpus Christi. Refer to Nhc and local Nws outlets. This forecast is my opinion and NOT official based on my analysis of current and forecasted Synoptics from guidance.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#299 Postby dwsqos2 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:05 am

Yeah, with the 6Z gfs, I would bet against genesis of anything significant. The 0Z cmc was more suppressed as well. I am close to voting no Arlene.

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#300 Postby plasticup » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:21 am

If the trend is your friend, then it is worth noting that the trend includes a building ridge in FL/LA and even into TX. The result is that this system is being pushed father and farther south. The models are now so far south that even the tiniest bump will keep it out of the Gulf entirely and blow over central Mexico as a bit of rain.
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