Gulf Disturbance Week of June 27th (Is invest 95L)

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#321 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:11 pm

Nice pressure drop in the central Caribbean during the last 48 hrs or so.

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#322 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:06 pm

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GFS starts the fire and kills it too!!
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#323 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:10 pm

:uarrow: yep but it looks like it develops another system in the SW gulf in about 7 days.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#324 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:13 pm

South Texas Storms wrote: but it looks like it develops another system in the SW gulf in about 7 days.


True, something new from the GFS .... wait a minute, hasn't this been the forecast since a few weeks ago? lol
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#325 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:36 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote: but it looks like it develops another system in the SW gulf in about 7 days.


True, something new from the GFS .... wait a minute, hasn't this been the forecast since a few weeks ago? lol



Haha yeah one of these systems are gonna develop, right?
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#326 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:44 pm

12zECMWF Ensembles have the low tracking further north in the GOM then the operational run.

Tuesday morning.
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#327 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:53 pm

San Andres Island has had a calm to variable winds through out the day..maybe a sign of a developing low??

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/SKSP.html
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#328 Postby stormreader » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:30 pm

NHC does mention broad cyclonic turning in the Gulf.

AN UPPER TROUGH EXTENDS ITS AXIS ACROSS THE ERN AND SE CONUS TO
SOUTHERN TEXAS. CONTRASTINGLY...AN UPPER RIDGE SITS OVER CENTRAL
MEXICO EXTENDING ITS AXIS EASTWARD ACROSS THE GULF AND THE
FLORIDA PENINSULA INTO THE WEST ATLC OCEAN. THESE TWO FEATURES
ARE GENERATING AN AREA OF DIFFLUENCE ALOFT SUPPORTING SCATTERED
MODERATE TO HEAVY SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITHIN 100 TO 120 NM
ON EITHER SIDE OF A LINE EXTENDING FROM NEAR 28N856 TO 22N96W. A
RECENT ASCAT PASS COMBINED WITH MARINE OBS ACROSS THE GULF SH
WED BROAD CYCLONIC TURN 15-25 KT ALONG THE LINE.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#329 Postby tailgater » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:25 pm

GFS is at it again. I guess we'll just have wait till we actually have a closed low confirmed by RECON.
I'm sure the 00 run will show something totally different.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#330 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:01 pm

Tomorrow will probably show it hitting around Corpus or even further north :roll: I'm sure if this "phantom" storm doesn't pan out give it another day and the GFS will show another one developing in the gulf in another 6-8 days. Maybe in July it will actually get something right, then again... Have to give it credit for two things so far this season: persistence and determination :lol:
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#331 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:14 pm

The 12z & 18z GFS Ensembles are hinting that IF something were to develop it still could go further north than the operational runs.

Here is the MSLP spread for Friday morning 07/01 when the HPC has Low pressure over Tampico Mx.

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#332 Postby Rainband » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:19 pm

tailgater wrote:GFS is at it again. I guess we'll just have wait till we actually have a closed low confirmed by RECON.
I'm sure the 00 run will show something totally different.

what recon??
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#333 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:30 pm

Not speaking for tailgater but think he was just being a little sarcastic.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#334 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:54 pm

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We got Jim for dissipating systems and for the current GFS, we got "Sleepy" .. lol
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#335 Postby tailgater » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:17 am

Rainband wrote:
tailgater wrote:GFS is at it again. I guess we'll just have wait till we actually have a closed low confirmed by RECON.
I'm sure the 00 run will show something totally different.

what recon??


Yeah just saying, I'll beleive it when I see it, these models aren't preforming to well (formation wise) maybe they'll do better with tracking and intensity! :wink:
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#336 Postby ROCK » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:49 am

center reformations will be key here. Well that is if it does form a LLC.... :lol:

wait and see time...
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#337 Postby Pearl River » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:58 am

New Orleans this morning:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
424 AM CDT SAT JUN 25 2011

.LONG TERM...
LOCALLY...A PERSISTENCE OF BERMUDA RIDGE REGIME FOR THE MOST PART
THOUGH A WEAK UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AND SURFACE REFLECTION TROUGH MAY
SETTLE INTO THE REGION WEDNESDAY TO PERHAPS ENHANCE RAIN CHANCES A
BIT ALONG A BETTER SYNOPTIC SCALE FOCUS...PER THE GFS. THE GFS
ALSO CONTINUES TO WAVER WITH EACH RUN ON LOW PRESSURE CYCLOGENESIS
IN THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO LATTER PART OF NEXT WEEK INTO THE
INDEPENDENCE DAY WEEKEND. THIS STILL LOOKS SUSPECT AND POSSIBLY A
MODEL ARTIFACT WITHIN THE GFS AS THE ECMWF AND DGEX DISCOUNT SUCH
A FEATURE. FROM A TELECONNECTION APPROACH...THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF
MEXICO WILL BE MORE CONDUCIVE FOR LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT BUT
WILL BE LIMITED IN AREAL EXTENT OF NON-HOSTILE CONDITIONS...
PRIMARILY PINNED ALONG THE MEXICAN COAST AS SHEAR WOULD BE MORE
PRONOUNCED ALONG WITH CONTINENTAL DRY FETCH FARTHER NORTH.
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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#338 Postby SETXWXLADY » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:07 am

Pearl River wrote:New Orleans this morning:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
424 AM CDT SAT JUN 25 2011

.LONG TERM...
LOCALLY...A PERSISTENCE OF BERMUDA RIDGE REGIME FOR THE MOST PART
THOUGH A WEAK UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AND SURFACE REFLECTION TROUGH MAY
SETTLE INTO THE REGION WEDNESDAY TO PERHAPS ENHANCE RAIN CHANCES A
BIT ALONG A BETTER SYNOPTIC SCALE FOCUS...PER THE GFS. THE GFS
ALSO CONTINUES TO WAVER WITH EACH RUN ON LOW PRESSURE CYCLOGENESIS
IN THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF MEXICO LATTER PART OF NEXT WEEK INTO THE
INDEPENDENCE DAY WEEKEND. THIS STILL LOOKS SUSPECT AND POSSIBLY A
MODEL ARTIFACT WITHIN THE GFS AS THE ECMWF AND DGEX DISCOUNT SUCH
A FEATURE. FROM A TELECONNECTION APPROACH...THE SOUTHWEST GULF OF
MEXICO WILL BE MORE CONDUCIVE FOR LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT BUT
WILL BE LIMITED IN AREAL EXTENT OF NON-HOSTILE CONDITIONS...
PRIMARILY PINNED ALONG THE MEXICAN COAST AS SHEAR WOULD BE MORE
PRONOUNCED ALONG WITH CONTINENTAL DRY FETCH FARTHER NORTH.



Yeah, the 6z GFS shows a storm going thru TX/LA around 300hrs. Good explanation on why the other models aren't showing that. Thanks.

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Re: Possible Gulf Disturbance (Next week)

#339 Postby Frank2 » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:15 am

Nothing in the Gulf this morning except for lots of cirrus debris - active convection in the SW Caribbean, however, though the GFS shows that crossing Central America...

Lots of cloud cover here in South Florida this morning, too - we had a nice halo around the sun for several hours yesterday morning, as well..
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#340 Postby stormreader » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:36 am

Well if something does materialize in the SW Gulf (and thats a very big if) I think it may be in conjunction with weather (the wave) now located in the Western Caribbean Sea. The Hurricane Center says that much of this convection will move into the NW Carribean. We'll see if this doesn't make its way into the Bay of Campeche by Tue-Wed of next week.
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