ATL: ARLENE - Remnants
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
A RIDGE OVER THE
CENTRAL UNTIED STATES BUILDS EASTWARD. THIS SHOULD CAUSE THE
TRACK OF ARLENE TO BEND TOWARD THE WEST OR WEST-SOUTHWEST
Freakin gulf coast death ridge. Normally we would at least get some good tropical rains streaming north from a system hitting mexico but oh no not with our friendly drought ridge flexing its muscles on us again. Probably wont even see a cloud from it tomorrow. At least its good to see the season kick off but things look pretty quiet after Arlene moves inland. Could be a few weeks into July before we see another storm.
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Models
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SHIP ups intensity landfall to 58kts.
SHIP ups intensity landfall to 58kts.
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WHXX01 KWBC 290040
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0040 UTC WED JUN 29 2011
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
TROPICAL CYCLONE ARLENE (AL012011) 20110629 0000 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
110629 0000 110629 1200 110630 0000 110630 1200
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 21.2N 93.8W 21.7N 96.0W 21.7N 97.9W 21.5N 99.6W
BAMD 21.2N 93.8W 21.6N 95.3W 21.8N 96.9W 21.8N 98.5W
BAMM 21.2N 93.8W 21.6N 95.7W 21.6N 97.4W 21.3N 99.1W
LBAR 21.2N 93.8W 21.9N 95.5W 22.7N 97.5W 23.5N 99.7W
SHIP 35KTS 45KTS 52KTS 58KTS
DSHP 35KTS 45KTS 52KTS 58KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
110701 0000 110702 0000 110703 0000 110704 0000
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 21.3N 101.0W 20.5N 103.9W 20.6N 106.6W 21.4N 109.5W
BAMD 21.7N 100.2W 21.5N 104.2W 21.7N 108.0W 21.8N 111.8W
BAMM 21.1N 100.7W 20.4N 104.3W 20.3N 107.8W 20.5N 111.3W
LBAR 24.5N 101.9W 26.2N 106.0W 28.9N 109.2W 31.6N 111.9W
SHIP 60KTS 67KTS 64KTS 58KTS
DSHP 41KTS 28KTS 27KTS 27KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 21.2N LONCUR = 93.8W DIRCUR = 295DEG SPDCUR = 6KT
LATM12 = 20.7N LONM12 = 92.8W DIRM12 = 293DEG SPDM12 = 5KT
LATM24 = 20.1N LONM24 = 91.6W
WNDCUR = 35KT RMAXWD = 75NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1003MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD = 240NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 40NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:A RIDGE OVER THE
CENTRAL UNTIED STATES BUILDS EASTWARD. THIS SHOULD CAUSE THE
TRACK OF ARLENE TO BEND TOWARD THE WEST OR WEST-SOUTHWEST
Freakin gulf coast death ridge. Normally we would at least get some good tropical rains streaming north from a system hitting mexico but oh no not with our friendly drought ridge flexing its muscles on us again. Probably wont even see a cloud from it tomorrow. At least its good to see the season kick off but things look pretty quiet after Arlene moves inland. Could be a few weeks into July before we see another storm.
Oh man I feel the exact same way. We usually get some rain from a tropical system hitting Mexico but not this time because of our stubborn and stupid friend who won't go away: the death ridge...

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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
South Texas Storms wrote:CYCLONE MIKE wrote:A RIDGE OVER THE
CENTRAL UNTIED STATES BUILDS EASTWARD. THIS SHOULD CAUSE THE
TRACK OF ARLENE TO BEND TOWARD THE WEST OR WEST-SOUTHWEST
Freakin gulf coast death ridge. Normally we would at least get some good tropical rains streaming north from a system hitting mexico but oh no not with our friendly drought ridge flexing its muscles on us again. Probably wont even see a cloud from it tomorrow. At least its good to see the season kick off but things look pretty quiet after Arlene moves inland. Could be a few weeks into July before we see another storm.
Oh man I feel the exact same way. We usually get some rain from a tropical system hitting Mexico but not this time because of our stubborn and stupid friend who won't go away: the death ridge...
6 inches from alex last year....
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I'm still looking for the circulation centre!!! Convection everywhere, quite a bit on the Yucatan as well...
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Well, I guess that one cell developed near the CC and the NHC pulled the trigger.....I guess they are chomping at the bit to get some action also. Can't say I agree...but so be it. Just my opinion but there was too little convection near the center to upgrade at this time....hope ya'll in Texas at least get a little rain out of Arlene......MGC
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fact789 wrote:Can somebody post the RI guidance?
Here is is.
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* ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* GOES AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* ARLENE AL012011 06/29/11 00 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 35 40 45 49 52 58 60 65 67 68 64 63 58
V (KT) LAND 35 40 45 49 52 58 41 31 28 27 27 27 27
V (KT) LGE mod 35 39 44 47 51 57 42 31 28 27 27 27 27
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
SHEAR (KT) 13 13 9 6 4 12 9 14 11 16 21 16 22
SHEAR ADJ (KT) -1 -3 -1 -2 1 1 -2 6 0 6 -3 4 -2
SHEAR DIR 284 290 290 316 277 321 332 10 343 329 345 344 327
SST (C) 28.7 28.7 28.6 28.5 28.4 28.2 28.1 28.4 28.7 28.9 28.9 28.8 28.7
POT. INT. (KT) 145 145 143 142 140 137 136 140 144 146 146 144 142
ADJ. POT. INT. 130 130 128 126 124 121 120 124 128 126 127 125 123
200 MB T (C) -51.7 -52.0 -52.3 -52.0 -51.4 -52.2 -50.9 -51.9 -51.0 -52.1 -51.2 -52.5 -51.7
TH_E DEV (C) 9 8 7 9 9 8 11 8 10 6 8 6 10
700-500 MB RH 80 76 75 78 78 76 80 81 87 87 87 84 81
GFS VTEX (KT) 13 13 15 14 13 12 9 8 6 7 5 6 4
850 MB ENV VOR 58 59 58 66 68 82 102 118 113 122 89 65 24
200 MB DIV 86 66 51 52 60 35 72 89 65 69 72 55 51
700-850 TADV -2 0 -6 -1 -6 -7 -3 -15 -4 -11 -2 -5 0
LAND (KM) 310 273 217 155 95 19 -52 -161 -273 -321 -323 -296 -267
LAT (DEG N) 21.2 21.5 21.7 21.8 21.8 21.8 21.8 21.5 21.1 20.7 20.6 20.6 20.8
LONG(DEG W) 93.8 94.5 95.1 95.7 96.3 97.2 98.3 99.3 100.3 100.9 100.6 100.3 100.1
STM SPEED (KT) 6 7 6 6 5 5 5 5 4 1 1 1 1
HEAT CONTENT 39 40 42 40 37 10 0 0 9999 9999 9999 9999 9999
FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):295/ 6 CX,CY: -4/ 3
T-12 MAX WIND: 25 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 500 (MEAN=623)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 21.3 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 71.0 (MEAN=65.0)
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
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SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 11. 12. 12. 13. 13.
SST POTENTIAL 1. 1. 2. 3. 6. 9. 13. 17. 20. 21. 22. 22.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 3. 5. 7. 8. 8. 8. 7. 6. 4. 3.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1.
PERSISTENCE 2. 3. 4. 5. 5. 4. 4. 3. 2. 1. 0. 0.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -4. -5. -6. -6. -7. -7.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -3. -4. -6. -7. -8.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -3. -3. -3. -3. -2.
GFS VORTEX TENDENCY 0. 1. 0. 0. -1. -4. -5. -7. -7. -9. -8. -10.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 2. 4. 5. 6. 7. 7. 7.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 1. 1. 2. 2. 3. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 4.
850-700 T ADVEC 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 1. 1.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
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TOTAL CHANGE 5. 10. 14. 17. 23. 25. 30. 32. 33. 29. 28. 23.
** 2011 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL012011 ARLENE 06/29/11 00 UTC **
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): 10.0 Range:-45.0 to 30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.7/ 2.4
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 9.1 Range: 26.2 to 3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.7/ 1.4
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 21.3 Range: 34.1 to 3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.4/ 0.9
D200 (10**7s-1) : 63.0 Range:-21.0 to 165.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.5/ 0.9
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 92.7 Range: 33.8 to 126.5 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.6/ 0.7
850-700 MB REL HUM (%): 78.6 Range: 56.0 to 85.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.8/ 0.5
Heat content (KJ/cm2) : 39.6 Range: 0.0 to 130.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.3/ 0.0
% area w/pixels <-30 C: 58.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.5/ 0.2
Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 36% is 2.8 times the sample mean(12.8%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 20% is 2.4 times the sample mean( 8.4%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 11% is 2.2 times the sample mean( 5.0%)
Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.5 times the sample mean( 3.4%)
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL012011 ARLENE 06/29/11 00 UTC ##
## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=6 NFAIL=1 ##
## AHI= 0 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL012011 ARLENE 06/29/2011 00 UTC **
TIME(HR) 0-12 12-24(0-24) 24-36(0-36) 36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%) 0 0( 0) 0( 0) 0( 0) <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)
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CrazyC83 wrote:Next flight is when, tomorrow morning?
Departs at 5:30 AM EDT.
FLIGHT TWO -- TEAL 71
A. 29/1200Z
B. AFXXX 0201A CYCLONE
C. 29/0930Z
D. 22.0N 96.0W
E. 29/1130Z TO 29/1600Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I 'll be surprised if she's not @ 80mph before it reaches the coast. By the way Stacey Stewart rules.
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I think I said it depends on the high lol. Sorry you guys didn't get any rain but it's a long season 

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Dean4Storms wrote:I have to say that I was surprised at the doubting over this system organizing by many on here. I've seen alot worse upper level conditions existing and a Cyclone form, heck they've even formed with cooler water as well.
Agreed. I've been impressed with her since this morning. She just had the look of a developing tropical depression/storm. If she can tighten her circulation, high end tropical storm force winds are not out of the equation.
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
cycloneye wrote:wanted the extra few hours of warning
In my view,that was the key factor to go ahead now.
I agree. With the longer lead times they are using this year for watches and warnings they needed to go ahead and pull the trigger. Probably a good decision since the conditions are so good for continued intensification. IMO always better safe than sorry.
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Tropical Storm - Discussion
vbhoutex wrote:cycloneye wrote:wanted the extra few hours of warning
In my view,that was the key factor to go ahead now.
I agree. With the longer lead times they are using this year for watches and warnings they needed to go ahead and pull the trigger. Probably a good decision since the conditions are so good for continued intensification. IMO always better safe than sorry.
So at some point might they start issuing watches for T/S that have not developed yet? They issue hurricane watches for T/S some times
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Re: ATL: ARLENE - Models
Kudos to the GFS that sniffed development in the area before the other models, I know it developed two phantom systems before it, but it did a good job IMO.
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