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#201 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:52 am

The 0z forecast steering by Monday afternoon would suggest a slow NNE movement.

This is the forecast steering map for a TD or TS as indicated by the GFS, NOGAPS, and CMC.

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#202 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:52 am

gatorcane wrote:Only thing to watch is the big 500MB ridge currently in the center of the United States. That ridge is bringing the big heat wave that we are hearing about.

That looks like it is sliding to the east. I wonder if 98L meanders enought it will get blocked as the ridge shifts over to the MidAtlantic. Thoughts?

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http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/loop-wv.html

500MB heights from 06Z GFS:

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That is a possibility. So many variables to weigh. You have to weigh how strong 98L will be in 48 hours or so. It the system stays a TD or weak TS at best, then it is likely that it will not feel the effects of the trough that is currently in place to pull it out to sea. If the massive High over the Central U.S. does build eastward to the Mid Atlantic by Wednesday, it could indeed block the system from moving out to the north or northeast. It is possible that 98L may linger off the coast for several days. Lots of possiblities. We will hopefully get more in the details once Recon gets in there shortly and the data they collect will be incorporated into future model runs.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Recon

#203 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:57 am

Mike,so far I haven't seen the HDOB's.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#204 Postby PTrackerLA » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:58 am

Very interesting feature here, definitely think we'll see an upgrade to at least a TD this afternoon. If it were to cross into the gulf hopefully it will continue our recent trend of higher rain chances without misbehaving too bad!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#205 Postby ROCK » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:02 pm

Looks good and should continue to developed. Looks like a TS already...wonder if Nhc upgrade directly to Bret...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Recon

#206 Postby senorpepr » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:03 pm

cycloneye wrote:Mike,so far I haven't seen the HDOB's.


Me either... Hopefully that functionality will return as they near the system.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#207 Postby Frank2 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:03 pm

Last few photos some increase in organization - we'll see what happens, and though the SHIPS indicates it might come this way, the VIS loop seems to show an eastward drift at this time...

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#208 Postby fci » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:09 pm

I hold no faith in SHIPS.
This is destined to eventually move NE.
Just hope that it gets close enough to us in FL to give us much needed rain.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#209 Postby KatDaddy » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:10 pm

I expect an upgrade to TD very soon. Look good on satellite. I would sure like this system move across FLA and give TX rainfall but must be very careful what you ask for.
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#210 Postby Vortex » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:10 pm

per the 12:55 utc...wrapping up nicely...Im going with TD by 5pm....TS looks reasonable...West Palm to Melbourned best guess before it rides the coast N the NE possible impacting the carolinas...Just a best "guess" at this point...
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#211 Postby Dave » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:10 pm

000
URNT15 KBIX 141239
AF303 WXWXA 110713223312303 HDOB 07 20110713
233400 2809N 08715W 3991 07615 0416 -160 -192 078014 015 /// /// 03
233430 2808N 08712W 3992 07615 0417 -160 -192 081015 016 /// /// 03
233500 2808N 08710W 3991 07618 0417 -161 -191 083013 014 /// /// 03
233530 2807N 08708W 3991 07616 0417 -163 -192 089012 012 /// /// 03
233600 2806N 08705W 3992 07616 0417 -162 -192 095011 012 /// /// 03
233630 2806N 08703W 3992 07615 0417 -160 -192 082012 013 /// /// 03
233700 2805N 08700W 3991 07620 0418 -160 -193 093012 013 /// /// 03
233730 2804N 08658W 3991 07619 0420 -164 -193 105011 011 /// /// 03
233800 2804N 08656W 3990 07622 0422 -162 -194 099010 010 /// /// 03
233830 2803N 08653W 3991 07621 0423 -164 -195 094008 008 /// /// 03
233900 2802N 08651W 3992 07620 0423 -165 -195 087009 010 /// /// 03
233930 2801N 08648W 3994 07605 0413 -163 -197 095009 010 /// /// 03
234000 2801N 08646W 3995 07615 0418 -162 -198 093009 010 /// /// 03
234030 2800N 08644W 3992 07609 0411 -165 -198 096009 010 /// /// 03
234100 2759N 08641W 3991 07611 0412 -163 -199 096009 010 /// /// 03
234130 2759N 08639W 3994 07607 0413 -160 -200 105009 010 /// /// 03
234200 2758N 08636W 3995 07607 0413 -160 -201 105011 011 /// /// 03
234230 2757N 08634W 3995 07604 0412 -160 -202 104012 013 /// /// 03
234300 2756N 08632W 3995 07605 0413 -160 -203 109013 014 /// /// 03
234330 2756N 08629W 3995 07605 0412 -160 -204 104012 013 /// /// 03
$$
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#212 Postby Vortex » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:13 pm

Appears to be drifting S over the last 3 hours...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#213 Postby Blown Away » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:13 pm

Looks like dry air being pulled in towards the center.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#214 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:14 pm

The Melbourne long range radar still suggests a general southward crawl.
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#215 Postby Blown Away » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:14 pm

Vortex wrote:Appears to be drifting S over the last 3 hours...


It's been hugging that 28/78 crosshair for hours.
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#216 Postby Dave » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:16 pm

Looks like 2 planes in the air...sorting them out now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#217 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:17 pm

Looking good!

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#218 Postby senorpepr » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:18 pm

The scheduled mission is AF304 01BBA:


URNT15 KNHC 171713
AF304 01BBA INVEST HDOB 09 20110717
170230 2806N 08521W 3759 08082 0462 -196 //// 039015 016 /// /// 05
170300 2806N 08518W 3758 08082 0462 -194 //// 038011 012 /// /// 05
170330 2807N 08515W 3766 08070 0461 -191 //// 345009 012 /// /// 05
170400 2807N 08513W 3755 08093 0464 -193 //// 219001 004 /// /// 05
170430 2807N 08510W 3752 08095 0462 -192 //// 015008 015 /// /// 05
170500 2807N 08507W 3760 08080 0462 -200 //// 043012 012 /// /// 05
170530 2807N 08504W 3760 08080 0461 -200 //// 036012 012 /// /// 05
170600 2807N 08501W 3758 08084 0462 -199 //// 034012 013 /// /// 05
170630 2807N 08459W 3761 08078 0461 -200 //// 041011 011 /// /// 05
170700 2807N 08456W 3758 08080 0459 -200 //// 037011 012 /// /// 05
170730 2807N 08453W 3758 08079 0457 -200 //// 030010 011 /// /// 05
170800 2807N 08450W 3759 08078 0457 -199 //// 029008 009 /// /// 05
170830 2807N 08448W 3759 08078 0457 -200 //// 032009 010 /// /// 05
170900 2807N 08445W 3758 08079 0458 -200 //// 041010 010 /// /// 05
170930 2807N 08442W 3759 08078 0458 -200 //// 040010 010 /// /// 05
171000 2807N 08439W 3758 08080 0458 -200 //// 034010 010 /// /// 05
171030 2807N 08437W 3759 08079 0458 -200 //// 033010 010 /// /// 05
171100 2807N 08434W 3761 08075 0458 -200 //// 027011 011 /// /// 05
171130 2807N 08431W 3759 08078 0458 -200 //// 037010 010 /// /// 05
171200 2807N 08428W 3759 08078 0458 -200 //// 026009 009 /// /// 05
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#219 Postby Bocadude85 » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:19 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Vortex wrote:Appears to be drifting S over the last 3 hours...


It's been hugging that 28/78 crosshair for hours.



Looking at the long range radar out of Melbourne I see a slow southward drift
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#220 Postby jinftl » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:20 pm

If I didn't know we were talking about Invest 98, I would have to say, this looks like a td or ts...whether it has that level of organization will soon be known thanks to recon.

Ivanhater wrote:Looking good!
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