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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Models

#1761 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:20 am

Tough to pinpoint landfall at this point. Still going with the North most models. I think SETX is in the crosshairs now.
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#1762 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:21 am

Cnter is now a little north of the eastern part of the Yucatan.
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#1763 Postby dwsqos2 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:22 am

Nice outflow boundaries on the eastern side; I am still not impressed.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#1764 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:23 am

dwsqos2 wrote:Nice outflow boundaries on the eastern side; I am still not impressed.


Yeah its not an amazing looking system, but I think even you'd have to accept its probably a TD/TS right now...making your call forn 0/0/0 in July look very bad if it does go on to become Don :P
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#1765 Postby MBryant » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:23 am

HurricaneBrain wrote:I think the first NHC track will be straight to the central Texas coast. The track will keep moving farther north if the more trusted models shift north. Right now it seems like the more reliable ones take this to the south-central coast.


I have no idea where it will go eventually, but I have learned to be prepared just in case it decides to visit. Diesel in my truck is better than diesel in the station's tank. My concern this year is the higher than typical gulf water temps which could lead to late rapid intensification before landfall.

Does the warm water have any point of diminishing effect where the water get's too warm for rapid intensification? I wouldn't guess so, but I didn't consider the eye wall replacement effect before the last few years either.
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#1766 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:25 am

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dwsqos2 wrote:Nice outflow boundaries on the eastern side; I am still not impressed.


Yeah its not an amazing looking system, but I think even you'd have to accept its probably a TD/TS right now...making your call forn 0/0/0 in July look very bad if it does go on to become Don :P


LOL he predicted 0/0 for July?!?!?! How bold.



Future Don does indeed look a bit ragged...this is to be expected though. So long as RECON sees a closed circulation and the appropriate winds, a TD is a TD.
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#1767 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:26 am

Best link for loops on this system: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html
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#1768 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:27 am

let see what plane report
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#1769 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:28 am

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Future Don does indeed look a bit ragged...this is to be expected though. So long as RECON sees a closed circulation and the appropriate winds, a TD is a TD.


Yep, I wouldn't be all that surprised if it struggles a little, but then again these lop-sided systems often are surprisingly potent for thier presentation, if you'd pin me up against a wall, I'd go for 55kts at landfall.

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#1770 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:29 am

Still no reports?!?!

Hmm hopefully nothing is going too wrong!
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#1771 Postby Dave » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:32 am

KWT wrote:Still no reports?!?!

Hmm hopefully nothing is going too wrong!


Nothing yet KWT. Nothing in raw, regular, or the archives. Not even a recco message. Wondering if there's a transmitter/receiver problem.
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#1772 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:32 am

IF the trough over the northern gulf coast persists longer than forecast and the ridge does not build in and just slides east than the weakness will be more towards the central gulf and we will see a more NW to NNW motion to the coast. right now the steering seems to indicate a more NW motion towards the upper TX coast western LA. will have to see exactly what the left over trough/boundary has on it.

The shear Forecast is still showing that conditions will improve over the next day so its likely that it will intensify some. will it make it to hurricane strength remains to be seen.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#1773 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:33 am

http://www.insmet.cu/asp/genesis.asp?TB ... AXw01a.gif


on the northern coast of the western tip of cuba the low is?
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#1774 Postby floridasun78 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:33 am

:?: what is link to google hurricane tracking map few you use i see one post in here from goggle earth
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#1775 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:34 am

Aric Dunn wrote:IF the trough over the northern gulf coast persists longer than forecast and the ridge does not build in and just slides east than the weakness will be more towards the central gulf and we will see a more NW to NNW motion to the coast. right now the steering seems to indicate a more NW motion towards the upper TX coast western LA. will have to see exactly what the left over trough/boundary has on it.

The shear Forecast is still showing that conditions will improve over the next day so its likely that it will intensify some. will it make it to hurricane strength remains to be seen.



Couldn't have said it better myself. The clear split in the model consensus shows how confusing the track may be. What we can GUESS I believe is Texas should get some action. However Louisiana IMO is coming more and more under the gun.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Recon Discussion

#1776 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:36 am

Maybe a suggestion on my part to the folks of NHC is to make a brief statement about the status of the flight on their Facebook and Twitter pages to let know the public.
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#1777 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:36 am

floridasun78 wrote::?: what is link to google hurricane tracking map few you use i see one post in here from goggle earth

http://tropicalatlantic.com/recon/
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#1778 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:37 am

Aric Dunn wrote:IF the trough over the northern gulf coast persists longer than forecast and the ridge does not build in and just slides east than the weakness will be more towards the central gulf and we will see a more NW to NNW motion to the coast. right now the steering seems to indicate a more NW motion towards the upper TX coast western LA. will have to see exactly what the left over trough/boundary has on it.

The shear Forecast is still showing that conditions will improve over the next day so its likely that it will intensify some. will it make it to hurricane strength remains to be seen.



I know we all tend to discount this, but it's also possible that the models are seeing something that we aren't,
which is why they aren't developing the system into much of anything.
I still think we've got a good shot at a strong tropical storm that will hopefully bring some much needed rains
to the south.
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#1779 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:38 am

I certainly hope you guys in Texas that are so in need of rain, get some out of this system.
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#1780 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:41 am

As the southern part of the Circ clears the yucatan we should see a more organized system. The westerly flow is probably slightly inhibited by the land somewhat even though is pretty flat.
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