WPAC: MUIFA (Kabayan) - Tropical Depression

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#341 Postby ManilaTC » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:34 pm

Chacor wrote:KMA use 10 minute and CMA 2 minute winds, yes. CMA quite daring with that forecast, way more bold than even the JTWC is forecasting.



Any conversion factor for 2minute to 10 minute winds?
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#342 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:35 pm

Classic EWRC image on latest vis satellite:

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Storming - I think the wind field may well expand and we can expect a larger eye (experts correct me if I'm wrong.)
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#343 Postby StormingB81 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:40 pm

Thank you..I tried looking it up and I was confused didnt know it it meant restrengthen or not..
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#344 Postby dexterlabio » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:41 pm

Typhoon Hunter wrote:Thanks Chacor for clearing up those wind averages.

Dexter it would certain appear as if an EWRC is underway. Could this lead to an enlargening of the wind field and expansion in size. That NRL vis pic you posted kind of reminds me of Sepat back in2007.

Snoop - no worries, it's first time I've gone through all agencies myself for Muifa so thought I'd just share it here for those scratching their eyes and waking up here in Wpac! :)


Yes, Sepat. It could have been successful if it did not make landfall shortly and decayed. With Muifa, it still has some days to complete the cycle and could also redevelop its circulation completely. We could see a wider and more intense eye if that pans out.
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#345 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:44 pm

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Chacor wrote:KMA use 10 minute and CMA 2 minute winds, yes. CMA quite daring with that forecast, way more bold than even the JTWC is forecasting.



Any conversion factor for 2minute to 10 minute winds?


Should be fairly similar for 1-minute to 10-minute, but I've never found anything definitive on 2-min to 10-min.
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#346 Postby ManilaTC » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:04 pm

dexterlabio wrote:
Typhoon Hunter wrote:Thanks Chacor for clearing up those wind averages.

Dexter it would certain appear as if an EWRC is underway. Could this lead to an enlargening of the wind field and expansion in size. That NRL vis pic you posted kind of reminds me of Sepat back in2007.

Snoop - no worries, it's first time I've gone through all agencies myself for Muifa so thought I'd just share it here for those scratching their eyes and waking up here in Wpac! :)


Yes, Sepat. It could have been successful if it did not make landfall shortly and decayed. With Muifa, it still has some days to complete the cycle and could also redevelop its circulation completely. We could see a wider and more intense eye if that pans out.


Not unless another EWRC FAIL occurs hahaha... another lucky break for Okinawa then... I know you guys are wishing for that.
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#347 Postby StormingB81 » Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:42 pm

On the NRL site looks like the eyes is comming back..
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#348 Postby dexterlabio » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:19 pm

^Yea the eye is becoming clear again.
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Not sure though, if it's not some dry air over the northern portion then probably an eyewall replacement is underway...or maybe some of its convection decaying, it should find time to redevelop itself if it still would want to gain strength imo...
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#349 Postby dexterlabio » Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:25 pm

Personally, I don't find EWRC cool for storms because most of the time they actually fail. :lol: They often contribute to weakening of the system. Notable exception for me would be Katrina where its eye along with its circulation became incredibly large and intense. I also remember STY Durian in 2006 undergoing EWRC within a short time then successfully finished the cycle before landfall in Bicol region.
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Re: WPAC: MUIFA (Kabayan) - Typhoon

#350 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:03 am

Dexter that IR image you posted is about 11 hours old. On lastest MTSAT visible imagery you can clearly see the old pinhole eye is still there surrounded by a dry moat and then the outer eyewall. It would make great radar imagery right now for sure!
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#351 Postby StormingB81 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:08 am

James..what is your opinion..you think it will strengthen back up or weaken?
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#352 Postby ManilaTC » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:14 am

EWRC!

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#353 Postby ManilaTC » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:16 am

Here is a cool image :cheesy:

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#354 Postby Infdidoll » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:18 am

Noted on other thread, but will post here, too: http://weather.kadenaforcesupport.com/update/tcir.html

I need to get to the store and by now, now that this is out there, it's going to be insane.
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#355 Postby StormingB81 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:20 am

so can we expect reintesification now?
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#356 Postby Typhoon Hunter » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:29 am

StormingB81 wrote:James..what is your opinion..you think it will strengthen back up or weaken?


Storming it's a tricky one.

If shear stays away like JTWC have said they expect it to and it can go through this EWRC it could well strengthen a bit more. ECMWF certainly forecasts a very good environment near Okinawa. However we did all get our fingers burnt by Maon which should have become a monster but epicly failed but I'd be surprised to see that happen again so soon!

Currently the old pinhole eye and eyewall are hanging on there but once that's complete I guess it could resemble the look of Nabi back in 2005 (not track or necessarily that intensity though) - http://www.geoffmackley.com/archive/nabiw16.html
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#357 Postby dexterlabio » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:29 am

Oh, didn't notice it was old. :lol: Well so it means that the cycle was about to begin even hours ago.

About reintesification, I would wait for some time to see. If it could finish the cycle completely and display a much stronger appearance, then that's it. :D
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Re: WPAC: MUIFA (Kabayan) - Typhoon

#358 Postby dexterlabio » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:33 am

Infdidoll wrote:Noted on other thread, but will post here, too: http://weather.kadenaforcesupport.com/update/tcir.html

I need to get to the store and by now, now that this is out there, it's going to be insane.


85kts with 125kt wind gusts is more than nasty. I hope everyone will stay fine in there.
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#359 Postby euro6208 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:11 am

that pinhole eye is still there. certainly this is a very strong typhoon and still forecast to strengthen as it nears okinawa. what a monster!

very large muifa!!!

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Re: WPAC: MUIFA (Kabayan) - Typhoon

#360 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:58 am

85-125 max forecast in Kadena, Yikes. Going to be a rough one.

The image below really does show a decent eye as well. JT noted in there last prog reasoning it is under the cloud cover there.

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