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#4861 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:24 pm

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#4862 Postby SeminoleWind » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:24 pm

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4863 Postby Jimsot » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:24 pm

Steve H. wrote:Well Emily keeps spitting out outflow boundaries to the west. Looking terrible right now, but maybe she's tighter under the center. I agree she never stalled; the weak llc kept movely along, but she has slowed up some. Th :flag: ings can change, but she still is suffering from shear and some dry air :flag:



Whatever she spit out just came past here on the SE coast of Anguilla. We went from breezy to gales, rain, and knocked over patio furniture.
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#4864 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:26 pm

Hmmm interesting, the recon obs seems to shown a fair few west winds SW of the center we've been tracking...

Can't rule out another center relocation happening....
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4865 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:26 pm

Recon now appears to be finding a very broad open center to the southwest and west of that vortex message.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4866 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:28 pm

wxman57 wrote:Recon now appears to be finding a very broad open center to the southwest and west of that vortex message.


Do you think the center maybe starting to relocate again, it has previous with moves like this...
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4867 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:28 pm

AdamFirst wrote:Well, it DID go from 15.3 to 15.6 north since 11 AM :D


And from 63.6 to 64.8 west since 11am, no "stationary" IMO.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4868 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:29 pm

If it relocates there, the track will definately have to be shifted west in the 24hr forecast
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#4869 Postby Dave » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:29 pm

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URNT15 KNHC 021826
AF309 0605A EMILY HDOB 12 20110802
181600 1444N 06532W 9770 00266 0071 +240 +217 243010 010 /// /// 03
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181930 1444N 06520W 9770 00265 0070 +241 +214 234011 011 009 000 00
182000 1444N 06519W 9773 00263 0069 +244 +214 229011 011 007 000 00
182030 1444N 06517W 9770 00266 0069 +245 +214 228011 011 007 000 00
182100 1444N 06515W 9770 00265 0069 +245 +215 224011 011 008 000 00
182130 1444N 06514W 9770 00265 0069 +245 +215 225011 012 010 000 00
182200 1445N 06512W 9770 00265 0069 +245 +214 224012 013 010 000 00
182230 1445N 06510W 9772 00264 0070 +245 +214 222012 013 009 000 00
182300 1445N 06509W 9771 00264 0069 +245 +215 217012 013 010 000 00
182330 1445N 06507W 9770 00265 0069 +245 +215 218012 013 010 000 00
182400 1445N 06505W 9772 00264 0069 +245 +215 216012 013 009 000 00
182430 1445N 06504W 9769 00266 0069 +245 +215 218013 014 008 000 00
182500 1445N 06502W 9773 00262 0069 +245 +215 216013 014 009 000 00
182530 1445N 06500W 9768 00266 0069 +243 +215 217013 014 011 000 00
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Models

#4870 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:29 pm

Seems like the models are coming to a solution that takes Emily over the Bahamas and then just east of Florida.. but it may be a very close call.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Recon

#4871 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:30 pm

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#4872 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:33 pm

KWT wrote:Oh yeah there is a weak ridge, but its not the beast that shunted Jeanne all the way back due west, its a small ridge that could prevent a total recurve and maybe bend the system WNW.

Think the models are still too far east in the short term looking at the motion at the moment.


could get a system into jacksonville which is very rare but it takes a setup like this to have a chance
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#4873 Postby Airboy » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:33 pm

Yeah, the winds from recon suggest that the center is more SW than the last position they had in the last vortex.
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#4874 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:34 pm

ECM suggesting a close call, seems like we have very good general agreement tonight with the models...now watch Emily throw a wobbler and not track as they want!
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Models

#4875 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:34 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:Seems like the models are coming to a solution that takes Emily over the Bahamas and then just east of Florida.. but it may be a very close call.


close enough to put a good scare into all the fossils living in boca
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#4876 Postby OuterBanker » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:34 pm

Canseddy, what you posted has emily off east coast of fl then out to sea. Thankfully most models are still taking it out before NC and no landfall.
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#4877 Postby chris_fit » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:36 pm

Airboy wrote:Yeah, the winds from recon suggest that the center is more SW than the last position they had in the last vortex.


I don't think that's accurate.... Compare the VDM from last mission to the one from this one... WWNW
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#4878 Postby Sanibel » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:37 pm

You can't ignore how the CDO is in obvious directly-connected rotation with the surface feature.


I think we are seeing "Caribbean death zone" effects.
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#4879 Postby caneseddy » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:37 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Canseddy, what you posted has emily off east coast of fl then out to sea. Thankfully most models are still taking it out before NC and no landfall.


Yeah I realized that...for some reason, when I clicked on the 12z run earlier, the ones in the Gulf came up...I guess I must have forgotten to refresh :oops:
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#4880 Postby Bocadude85 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:38 pm

KWT wrote:ECM suggesting a close call, seems like we have very good general agreement tonight with the models...now watch Emily throw a wobbler and not track as they want!



And if recon does confirm that the center is farther west then you could shift the Euro track 50-100 miles farther west and then the system would then be inland in S. Fla.
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