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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5801 Postby plasticup » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:32 am

xironman wrote:Or the current very weak vortex could give up the ghost over the next day and it could relocate to south near the deep convection.

Now that is an interesting scenario. That might let Emily strengthen while still staying south of Hispaniola.
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#5802 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:33 am

KWT wrote:Emily heading nearly due west looking at the high resolution loops, and getting eeven more exposed.

A combo of shear and probably some injestion of air from Hispaniola not helping at all...

Amazingly the Nogaps track/strength looks good right now... :eek:


KWT can you post a high resolution map w/ a circle over the LLC?
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5803 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:35 am

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I'd say its game over...
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#5804 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:35 am

Blown Away wrote:
KWT can you post a high resolution map w/ a circle over the LLC?


I'll go one better, here is the firect link:

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=15

Can't miss it...
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5805 Postby ronjon » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:36 am

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#5806 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:37 am

SFLcane, possibly, but if ironically this maybe the best thing for its future chances, this means it probably misses Hispaniola's highest mountions.

Going to struggle for the time being, the LL flow is outrunning the mid level again, probably because its feeling the weakness at mid/upper levels but not yet at the lower levels.

Wouldn't be all that shocking to see this become a TD by the end of the day.
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#5807 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:40 am

KWT wrote:SFLcane, possibly, but if ironically this maybe the best thing for its future chances, this means it probably misses Hispaniola's highest mountions.

Going to struggle for the time being, the LL flow is outrunning the mid level again, probably because its feeling the weakness at mid/upper levels but not yet at the lower levels.

Wouldn't be all that shocking to see this become a TD by the end of the day.


Give me something that actually looks like a real tc to track..
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5808 Postby Kory » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:40 am

Florida might not have anything to worry about even if it does take the western track.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5809 Postby ronjon » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:40 am

KWT, looks like some strong westerly shear impacting the system again.
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#5810 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:40 am

Worth noting if it is going to become a naked system, then that means the lower levels will guide the system and the upper trough digging down will make little difference now...probably gives the system a good chance of staying south of hispaniola...

models will trend west and weaker IMO...some mqay well just decay the whole thing...
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5811 Postby Kory » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:41 am

ronjon wrote:KWT, looks like some strong westerly shear impacting the system again.

Yes and some dry air. The shear and dry air doesn't look to let up much as it tracks west.
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#5812 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:41 am

Yep ronjon, I think Hispaniola can't be helping this system too much either though given some of its inflow is now coming offland.

These naked LLC's can last a while folks, I'd be gvery careful to rule this one out despite obvious weakening trend right now.

to be fair the GFS does show this shear and then shows a zone of lower shear forming pretty soon.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5813 Postby jhpigott » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:43 am



Looks like some convection is trying/tried to fire off just east of the LLC.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5814 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:45 am




Well atleast the LLC appears to be heading more wnw....
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#5815 Postby ObsessedMiami » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:45 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote: Other than 1 local station, all the other mets are still telling folks to watch this, as the forecasted track is very tricky and the Hurricane center has said that there was not as much confidence in their forecast track as with most other storms.


How irresponsible to not tell folks to watch this storm. Which local station is it?
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5816 Postby xironman » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:47 am

Did this thing do this a couple of days ago before it was classified? Maybe it will do one of those cyclonic loops around the gyre again.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5817 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:48 am

Bocadude85 wrote:



Well atleast the LLC appears to be heading more wnw....


Really?

Its heading DUE west on the loop I'm watching.

Popcorn convection on the eastern side but thats nowhere near enough to stop weakening...shear really is a problem for this system at the moment...
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5818 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:51 am

KWT wrote:
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Well atleast the LLC appears to be heading more wnw....


Really?

Its heading DUE west on the loop I'm watching.

Popcorn convection on the eastern side but thats nowhere near enough to stop weakening...shear really is a problem for this system at the moment...


Yea you are right. Looking at a different loop and it appears to be heading W... if things dont change in the next few hours I am not sure we will have tropical storm Emily anymore though
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Models

#5819 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:54 am

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#5820 Postby Steve H. » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:54 am

Well, we can definitely see that there is still a closed circulation. She has just disrobed :roll: The shear has been strong across the basin.
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