A possible scenario of 2 systems TD#10 and 93L close

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A possible scenario of 2 systems TD#10 and 93L close

#1 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:52 pm

Question to the experts is what kind of effect a possible scenario between 93L and TD#10 close one to another may have.
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#2 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:03 pm

When I first saw this thread, I was thinking about the large area of convection around 11N, 35W ... but realized that we're talking about the invest 93L ...

BTW, 93L has a sheared low-level circulation ...

Anyways, if the two systems get fairly close, the Fujiwhara Effect may take place (in which the storms will be bumped around a point in a cyclonic fashion, generally like two magnets repelling each other) ... and generally such storms will have some damper on both storms, until they either pull away far enough so as not to be influenced, one becomes dominant and absorbs the other, or both find a way to co-exist either by moving in tandem (see 1995 Parade of Storms), or become what's known as sister hurricanes (or storms)...

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#3 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:11 pm

In other words SF if 92L or TD#10 gets close to 93L it may go for a while SW around it? If that happens if may have great implications on the future track of it.
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#4 Postby zoeyann » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:18 pm

How close together do systems have to be for that to happen. Could be interesting if it does.
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#5 Postby Steve H. » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:33 pm

Fujiwara is very rare in the Atlantic....I never have seen it in this basin, or know anyone who has recalled it. 93L is sheared, but is moving WNW. Hopefully this will pull away, or we won't have a long-tracked system....One could kill the other or both. Not likely to happen though. The other is that if 92L stays far enough behind, 93L could really pump up the ridge by having it build in its wake, keeping 92L (Fabian) in a more westward track. If Fabian is in its wake he might follow 93L to the fishes. I say Fabian cause that's really what he is!
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#6 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:55 pm

Steve, Actually, 1995 had that ... remember Humberto and Iris? ... Iris and Karen? Humberto and Iris did the Fujiwhara Dance...Iris was driven WSW and slowed to a creep, while Humberto was driven northwestward briefly until it's interaction with Iris was too far from the influence ... then Humberto was steered by the mean flow. In regards to Iris, she did it again later with Tropical Storm Karen, a fairly weak tropical storm, in which Karen was swept NW and accelerated. As Iris moved northward, Karen rapidly was sheared out and the circulation destroyed with the rapid NW movement at 31 mph, suddenly 6 hours later was stalled dead and stationary on the NW edge of Iris and was absorbed ... shortly after, Iris began a brief burst of deepening ...

This is the Parade of Storms Loop .... you need a movie player and be warned that this file is very large and high-speed is recommended.
and Below are some IR images posted for your viewing pleasure...

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/archi ... storms.mpg

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#7 Postby Steve H. » Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:59 pm

OK, I believe. But I think 93L gets killed by shear. At least badly impaired. NHC notes that if 93L gets strong enuf, it could put a weakness in the ridge allowing 92L to go north and out to sea. Don't think this will happen.
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#8 Postby Rainband » Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:03 pm

Nice image..Imagine if they all hit the CONUS!!! :o
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#9 Postby Stephanie » Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:33 pm

Rainband wrote:Nice image..Imagine if they all hit the CONUS!!! :o


I'm imagining right now!!! :o

Thanks for the satelite images SF. That was pretty cool! :D
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