Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic -(Now Invest 97L)

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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#481 Postby JTE50 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:12 pm

ozonepete wrote:
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CourierPR wrote:Bastardi tweeted that the fact that the SW Pacific has shut down and the SE Pacific has ramped up is a signal that the lights are about to come on in the Atlantic.


SW Pacific? Do you mean NW Pacific- Typhoon land ?


I assumed they meant SW part of North Pacific. LOL.


yeah, because SW Pacific is where the cyclones are during our winter.
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#482 Postby ozonepete » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:17 pm

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jlauderdal wrote: care to guess what four models are the reliable ones?


I think that he is talking about GFS, Euro, NOGAPS and UKMET, I have seen that he never mentions the Canadian in his discussions although IMO the Canadian is more reliable than NOGAPS.


I agree with you because he's talking about formation. CMC beats NOGAPS on that. But they all beat CMC on intensity. If CMC were right, we'd have 1 cat 5 per week. LOL
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#483 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Well the ECMWF is not that enthusiastic about this system. I am guessing it sees the high shear zone that is hanging out in the NE Caribbean area which, if verifies, will hinder development until the wave gets further west. Even before it crashes into Hispaniola on the 12Z, its not that impressive of a system. I would put more weight into the ECMWF solution at this point considering the GFS has done very poorly with these African waves so far this season.
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#484 Postby OURAGAN » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:22 pm

Continue to organize

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Here is the forecast for guadeloupe on Sunday 21:

http://marine.meteoconsult.fr/meteo-mar ... chemin_fer
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#485 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:23 pm

OURAGAN wrote:Continue to organize

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Here is the forecast for guadeloupe on Sunday 21:

http://marine.meteoconsult.fr/meteo-mar ... chemin_fer


Convection continue to increase. Should be interesting to see how does it looks later tonight during D-max...
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#486 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:31 pm

The good Doc Masters mentions the NOGAPS quite frequently...It is fun to look at when it divides a TW in 3 vortexs and developes all 3.... :lol: :lol: 12Z doesnt have a clue....

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cg ... t=Tropical
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#487 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:34 pm

gatorcane wrote:Well the ECMWF is not that enthusiastic about this system. I am guessing it sees the high shear zone that is hanging out in the NE Caribbean area which, if verifies, will hinder development until the wave gets further west. Even before it crashes into Hispaniola on the 12Z, its not that impressive of a system. I would put more weight into the ECMWF solution at this point considering the GFS has done very poorly with these African waves so far this season.


With the Euro flipping every run, I find it hard to put more weight in it. The GFS has been far more consistent. Actually, the 12z Euro is the most alarming run so far with the setup it is advertising. South Florida and the Gulf coast are wide open this run.
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#488 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:36 pm

HurricaneMaster_PR wrote:
OURAGAN wrote:Continue to organize

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/avn-l.jpg

Here is the forecast for guadeloupe on Sunday 21:

http://marine.meteoconsult.fr/meteo-mar ... chemin_fer


Convection continue to increase. Should be interesting to see how does it looks later tonight during D-max...



the cloud formation to the north and east indicates sinking air...A very stable environment. Meaning it aint going to pulling energy from the north or from the west. Its main source is the ITCZ to the south. IMO, its going to have a hard time maintaining in this environment. Not saying it wont develope though...I would like the high to build some and push it south and really get in the juicy stuff.... :D hmmm maybe it will do just that... :wink:

current steering

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... zoom=&time
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#489 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:37 pm

Current TC Formation Probability Map
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#490 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:40 pm

18z GFS rollin'
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#491 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:47 pm

24 hours

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#492 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:52 pm

GFS looms way too agressive in the short term IMO...the ECM probably a better call for the short term...

ECM has been flip flopping however alot recently, however the pattern is condusive for a US landfall...
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#493 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:05 pm

60 hours....tightening up

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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#494 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:10 pm

78 hours...approaching the Islands

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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#495 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:11 pm

84 hours..hitting the Islands

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#496 Postby Vortex » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:12 pm

H+90 just SSW of Guadelope and strengthening....


http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... cal090.gif
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#497 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:12 pm

The BIG difference is the forward speed, the GFS is abit quicker whilst the ECM is pretty slow with the forward motion which means it probably catches somewhat less favourable upper conditions.

Given the SAL outbreak, the faster set-up probably is not a bad call...

ECM much further north as well and goes ionto the shear zone, the GFS stays clear of it to some extent.
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#498 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:13 pm

Carib runner? Thinking this could be gulf bound this run...
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#499 Postby Vortex » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:14 pm

H+96 looks like PR may take a hit this run..


http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... cal096.gif
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Re: Pouch P17L in Eastern Atlantic

#500 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:14 pm

96 hours...really ramping up, solid ridging to the north

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