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#141 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:57 pm

Ivanhater, I appreciate so much you outlining the history of the GFS model runs these past several days!

I was wondering if you or anyone else is doing the same for the Euro or the other dynamical models like the GFDL?
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#142 Postby KWT » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:59 pm

gatorcane wrote:How about how slow the GFS moves this system through the Greater Antilles.....it seems to just creep westward over the course of several days, just waiting for any kind of weakness to hit...so the ridge doesn't look to be very strong over the Western Atlantic towards the end of the run....just enough to keep it crawling westward

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation


Yeah, that also argues for a weaker system giving the amount of time overland.

My main concern is the GFS has got a habit of under-estimating the upper high. The only thing that is helping that worry out is the fact that the other models broadly agree...for now!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#143 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:02 pm

gboudx wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Make this 14 runs in a row!

Updated GFS Runs:

06Z Mon: up U.S. East coast
12Z Mon: central LA 8/30
18Z Mon: skirts FL east coast to Charleston 8/27-8
00Z Tue: Tampa 8/27
06Z Tue: Pensacola 8/28
12Z Tue: S tip FL 8/26 to MS 8/28
18Z Tue: skirts FL east coast to Beaufort, SC 8/27-8
00Z Wed: FL Keys 8/26 to Apalachicola 8/27
06Z Wed: Ft. Lauderdale 8/26
12Z Wed: Georgia/South Carolina border 8/27
18Z Wed: West Palm beach up east coast of FL 8/25
00Z Thur: FL Keys 8/26 to west coast of FL 8/27
06Z Thur: Key West 8/26 to Big bend 8/27
12Z Thur: Key West 8/26 to Tampa/Big bend 8/27


This is great work by you. I hope you can keep this up because it really helps show the consistency in summarized format vs comparing maps.


be good to get this pinned, good work by those that are updating it
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#144 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:02 pm

EURO coming out soon....oops already started..



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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#145 Postby Kohlecane » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:03 pm

ROCK wrote:EURO coming out soon....
How is the Euro Timed
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#146 Postby Frank2 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:04 pm

This photo is another one of those "Go home, Frank!" moments from 30 years ago - Dr. Rosenthal (HRD Director at that time) would tell me that after my being at the DIFAX machine all night long...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/vis-l.jpg

It was Stan's way of saying "Nothing there right now"...

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P.S. Rest in peace, Stan...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#147 Postby Vortex » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:06 pm

Ivanhater wrote:12z GFS Ensemble mean is showing one hell of a signature in the Gulf..heading generally toward Pensacola

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Wouldnt surprise me abit if this crossed keys, possibly southern fl then into EGOM and turns into the weakness with a final landfal between Biloxi-Panama city....In fact thats my general forecast at this point
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#148 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:08 pm

the consistency of the GFS is about to be creamed by the mighty EURO......nothing but a TW 48hrs out...

let the model war begin....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#149 Postby x-y-no » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:13 pm

ROCK wrote:the consistency of the GFS is about to be creamed by the mighty EURO......nothing but a TW 48hrs out...

let the model war begin....


GFS also has a tropical wave at 48 hours. Yes, there's a closed isobar - but nothing close to a closed circulation.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#150 Postby caneseddy » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:13 pm

At 72 hours...starting to wind it up approaching the NE Caribbean

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... SLP072.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#151 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:14 pm

x-y-no wrote:
ROCK wrote:the consistency of the GFS is about to be creamed by the mighty EURO......nothing but a TW 48hrs out...

let the model war begin....


GFS also has a tropical wave at 48 hours. Yes, there's a closed isobar - but nothing close to a closed circulation.


I was being sarcastic... :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#152 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:16 pm

caneseddy wrote:At 72 hours...starting to wind it up approaching the NE Caribbean

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... SLP072.gif


do you want to post the images as they update? no sense in us wasting bandwidth...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#153 Postby caneseddy » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:17 pm

ROCK wrote:
caneseddy wrote:At 72 hours...starting to wind it up approaching the NE Caribbean

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... SLP072.gif


do you want to post the images as they update? no sense in us wasting bandwidth...


You go ahead..I can't post images from my work computer
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#154 Postby Portastorm » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:17 pm

Please make sure all images include text to put them in proper context.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#155 Postby chaser1 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:18 pm

...hey, what the heck! I'll get in on this model "holy war" :wink: To be honest though, I think that the GFS is only now ( 48hr. ) just showing the first glimpse of any semblance of a closed 1009 week low, associated with this system. Will be anxious to see what the Euro shows at about 96 - 120 hr. period.

I do agree, when it comes to down to it, i'm in the Euro camp when it comes to longer range reliable nuances as it applies to track and intensity. Used to feel pretty good about the UK also, but some have felt that the UK has lost some "cred." I guess.
ROCK wrote:the consistency of the GFS is about to be creamed by the mighty EURO......nothing but a TW 48hrs out...

let the model war begin....
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#156 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:18 pm

EURO already coming in south than the 0Z...probably not enough to make a difference...though...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#157 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:18 pm

96 hours..strengthening just south of PR...very similar to the GFS

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#158 Postby Vortex » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:20 pm

Ivanhater wrote:96 hours..strengthening just south of PR...very similar to the GFS

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Very similar to the GFS so Far....and it appears abit stroner so far
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#159 Postby Vortex » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:21 pm

12Z ukmet also at 72 hours is spot on to the ecm/gfs....



http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... cal072.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L-Models

#160 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:21 pm

120 HOURS..TAKING A BEATING OVER Hispaniola

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