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Herbert box

#1 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:22 am

The area between 15-20n and 60-65w is called the herbert box because if a system is in that area it is going to affect florida or the east coast.As I see the track for TD#10/Fabian it is going to move thru that box so those in florida and up the EC heads up next week but too early to say for sure to pinpoint an area that might be affected.
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#2 Postby Colin » Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:14 am

Yes, Florida and the East Coast need to keep a close eye on this...especially since it is nearing the Labor Day Weekend! :o
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#3 Postby JCT777 » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:11 pm

Colin wrote:Yes, Florida and the East Coast need to keep a close eye on this...especially since it is nearing the Labor Day Weekend! :o


True, but TD 10/Fabian would not affect those areas until after this weekend.
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#4 Postby Agua » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:29 pm

I saw something on that the other day. That is interesting. I thought it was named the "Herbert Box", or maybe "Hebert's Box", however, rather than the "helbert box"
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#5 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:48 pm

I believe it was just a typo Agua.
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#6 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:58 pm

Yes one letter error but it has now been edited but the important thing about this thread and not to be lost is the area that I am eluding too that is very important if this system gets in there and the implications to Florida and the east coast.
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Re: Herbert box

#7 Postby Scott_inVA » Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:34 pm

cycloneye wrote:The area between 15-20n and 60-65w is called the herbert box because if a system is in that area it is going to affect florida or the east coast.As I see the track for TD#10/Fabian it is going to move thru that box so those in florida and up the EC heads up next week but too early to say for sure to pinpoint an area that might be affected.


This is akin to what is often called "The Benchmark". This is the intersection at 20°N and 60°W, though some use 55°.

I'm away from the office but if memory serves, ~85% of EC and FL landfalling TCs pass south and west of the benchmark (if I need to I'll dig out the research tonight).

My preference is the benchmark over the Herbert Box because of precision given it is a specific reference point. If a TC "passes" the benchmark (meaning SW...and HP is located to the northeast (0-90°), these storms are generally under favorable conditions to strengthen and impact the CONUS EC. Not always, but that's the red flag, IMO.

But, the Box is a good indicator as well (not dissing it, just adding to it :wink: )

Scott
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