ATL: IRENE - Remnants - Discussion

[tolakram]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Must be breaking away from Hispaniola.

[ConvergenceZone]

For those of you not being affected by this storm, check out invest 90L. Looking like it could be another big one!

Looks like it will be a fish and a half!

LOL what does that mean?

It means that 90L should curve out to sea well before it gets to the USA.
Now we can go back on topic

[ColdFusion]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Must be breaking away from Hispaniola.

Wow, not much movement thru the duration of that loop.

[eastcoastFL]

shes pretty still right now.

[bella_may]

Convergencezone, nothing suggest that right now. But OK

[RL3AO]

Why can't they say 8pm edt ? whats so hard about that whats with the z's and utc's and GMT's ?

I think it's because the USA is not the center of the universe.

Really? Says who?? What nation exactly is the national hurricane center based in?

The national hurricane center has been given the responsibility by the UN to issue official forecasts for the Atlantic and East Pacific.

Besides, the entire meteorological industry uses UTC. It keeps order.

[tolakram]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Must be breaking away from Hispaniola.

Wow, not much movement thru the duration of that loop.

Look at the time in the loop. It's in rapid scan mode, each frame is only 5 to 10 minutes apart vs the usual 15 minutes.

[sicktght311]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Must be breaking away from Hispaniola.

Wow, not much movement thru the duration of that loop.

Its only an hour or so loop. so by its current movement track, it should have only moved about 10 miles, which looks about right. Plus is it just me, or do i see some increase in intensity going on there

[tolakram]

Looks like it may be starting some significant intensification now that inflow has improved.

IR loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... =spect.pal

[umguy]

I think it's because the USA is not the center of the universe.[/quote]


Really? Says who?? What nation exactly is the national hurricane center based in?[/quote]

Zulu time or GMT is useful because it is universal and also because due to its location on the Prime Meridian there are the same amount of time zones to the west and the east. Also I think its popularity may have something to do with the influence of Britain in its heyday.[/quote]

All airlines crews staff and operations are in Zulu time too. Global standard.

[Aric Dunn]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Must be breaking away from Hispaniola.

Wow, not much movement thru the duration of that loop.

Look at the time in the loop. It's in rapid scan mode, each frame is only 5 to 10 minutes apart vs the usual 15 minutes.

and ?? try this.. still barely moving the last couple hours. drifting

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-rgb.html

[wjs3]

live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... map=latlon

Must be breaking away from Hispaniola.

Wow, not much movement thru the duration of that loop.

Look at the time in the loop. It's in rapid scan mode, each frame is only 5 to 10 minutes apart vs the usual 15 minutes.

thanks for pointing this out. It's so important to note when assessing motion, development, etc. You, sir, are the king of satellite imagery!

[tolakram]

Not seeing what you're seeing Aric It's made it almost half way to the next forecast point and the eye is wobbling around like crazy.

[sicktght311]

and ?? try this.. still barely moving the last couple hours. drifting

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-rgb.html

Use some old fashioned measurements. Thats a 7 hour or so loop, moving at a clip of 10mph on average. So by all accounts it should have traveled about 70 miles, which (to me) it seems like its covered no problem.

[SouthDadeFish]

It looks like Irene's moisture envelope is drying out and there is more dry air around her circulation:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... t72hrs.gif

[jlauderdal]

I have full confidence in the NHC and the models, however....I'm starting to see posts from S2Kers I trust about a stall??/turn??/trough lifting out faster/Irene not being as strong/etc. and I'm just wondering if we could get some pro or close to it to comment on the potential this would have. Also, *IF* Irene is not as strong, wouldn't that cause a different set of steering currents, and wouldn't she be less likely to turn poleward. (yes, there are exceptions to every rule...I'm just wanting an intelligent spin on how things are progressing this afternoon )

full confidence and models should not ever be in the same conversation...

[SouthDadeFish]

Looking at CIMSS mean wind analysis, it looks like the ridge has at least temporarily started to build back over the NE and N of Irene. It will be interesting to see if the 21Z analysis continues to show this trend. Regardless, the second trough should still be strong enough to weaken the ridge and induce a more northerly motion in about 48 hours. This is just my opinion and not a professional forecast.

[jdray]

It looks like Irene's moisture envelope is drying out and there is more dry air around her circulation:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... t72hrs.gif

Yup, looks like she sucked in a big chunk of dry air.

[GCANE]

Got a good size hot-tower firing.

[RL3AO]

It looks like Irene's moisture envelope is drying out and there is more dry air around her circulation:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... t72hrs.gif

Dry air huh? All I see is -85C convection wrapping around the eye and a storm that looks ready to RI.