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#9201 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:47 pm

Look how impressive the outflow is a the 200MB level of the atmosphere. Very, very impressive, that outflow extends all the way down into the Caribbean!

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#9202 Postby HenkL » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:51 pm

000
URNT15 KNHC 272345
AF304 3409A IRENE HDOB 22 20110827
233530 3629N 07524W 6961 02793 9613 +114 //// 205059 061 050 004 01
233600 3629N 07526W 6953 02796 9605 +114 //// 203060 061 050 002 01
233630 3631N 07528W 6958 02779 9594 +115 //// 202059 059 049 001 01
233700 3632N 07530W 6957 02772 9580 +118 //// 202059 060 049 003 01
233730 3633N 07532W 6957 02757 9566 +120 //// 202056 056 050 000 01
233800 3634N 07534W 6958 02749 9553 +120 //// 199053 054 046 002 01
233830 3635N 07536W 6957 02737 9541 +120 //// 199045 048 042 002 01
233900 3635N 07538W 6957 02724 9522 +126 +123 202038 040 040 001 00
233930 3636N 07540W 6959 02713 9510 +130 +123 202026 032 037 001 00
234000 3637N 07542W 6957 02713 9503 +131 +123 209012 016 030 000 00
234030 3638N 07544W 6959 02710 9505 +132 +124 271004 006 015 001 03
234100 3639N 07545W 6957 02715 9505 +135 +125 357011 016 023 003 00
234130 3640N 07547W 6957 02724 9522 +126 +126 007020 024 027 001 03
234200 3641N 07548W 6957 02740 9547 +111 //// 023022 023 /// /// 05
234230 3642N 07547W 6959 02726 9548 +102 //// 047018 020 040 008 01
234300 3644N 07545W 6959 02727 //// +095 //// 084020 022 040 011 01
234330 3645N 07544W 6956 02734 //// +092 //// 108026 028 045 010 01
234400 3646N 07542W 6956 02741 //// +090 //// 120034 037 045 010 01
234430 3647N 07541W 6958 02746 //// +096 //// 125039 041 046 009 01
234500 3648N 07539W 6957 02755 //// +089 //// 129046 048 047 011 01

Extrapolated minimum SLP 950.3.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9203 Postby Janie2006 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:53 pm

An impressive storm, indeed. While there certainly aren't optimal conditions for Irene, she's a large and robust storm. The almost immediate flare-up of convection around the center as she re-emerges over water is good evidence of that. Looks like the synoptic set-up is going just about the way NHC has predicted.
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#9204 Postby HenkL » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:55 pm

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URNT12 KNHC 272350
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011
A. 27/23:40:40Z
B. 36 deg 38 min N
075 deg 44 min W
C. 700 mb 2664 m
D. 60 kt
E. 125 deg 86 nm
F. 208 deg 74 kt
G. 123 deg 64 nm
H. EXTRAP 952 mb
I. 11 C / 3056 m
J. 13 C / 3060 m
K. 12 C / NA
L. Open E-S
M. C9
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 0 nm
P. AF304 3409A IRENE OB 06
PRELIMINARY, DO NOT RETRANSMIT
MAX FL WIND 74 KT SE QUAD 23:23:10Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon

#9205 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:57 pm

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#9206 Postby Jevo » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:58 pm

I see these headlines like weakend Irene... ..The center passed over Sudduth 4 hours ago and now they have 5ft of surge.... The media is now shooting themselvs in the foot
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#9207 Postby CJPILOT » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:58 pm

gatorcane wrote:Looking at the latest radar, you can already see some more reds and oranges appearing near (north of) the center, which is telling me she may be responding to being over water now. It will be interesting to see if the right side of the system will fill in some now that the center is over water.


Agree...she will likely maintain being over water...warm water at that.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9208 Postby hurricaneCW » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:00 pm

The eye looks pretty good on radar and it's getting better, wouldn't be surprised to see it fill up on the south and east sides of it and get a nice bright band of convection wrapped around the center.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9209 Postby Airboy » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:00 pm

L. Eye Character: Open, Open E-S
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 9 nautical mile
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9210 Postby HokieNav » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:01 pm

First, as a n00b that registered just for this storm, I want to say THANKS to all of the smart folks here that provide such an amazing wealth of information. I'll definitely stick around. I live in Odenton, MD (halfway between Washington and Baltimore and the winds are finally starting to pick up around here after a long afternoon of just rain.

WeatherLovingDoc wrote:Hahaha. Mike Sidel just said on TWC he hopes that the toursists might be able to come back to OBX as soon as tomorrow for tourism sake.

Can you imagine what I64 and tributories look like, with all their trees? :idea:

Yeah, that might be a bit much - however I've been absolutely THRILLED to see how well the OBX seem to have cone through this one. I've got reservations at a oceanfront house in Duck starting next Sunday (4 September), and while I'm trying to not get to excited, I'm hoping that we'll be about to follow through with the vacation. I'm sure that things won't be back to normal, but I would hope that a week is enough to make it "good enough". Really, as long as there's a house and a beach and an ocean, I'm happy.
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#9211 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:02 pm

Is it possible she restrengthens some? She has an eye already, just needs to close it off with deeper convection...approaching DMIN, over warm waters.
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#9212 Postby Jevo » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:03 pm

brunota2003 wrote:Is it possible she restrengthens some? She has an eye already, just needs to close it off with deeper convection...approaching DMIN, over warm waters.


yes... or maintains... but you will not see anything rapidly happening
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#9213 Postby HenkL » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:05 pm

000
URNT12 KNHC 272354
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL092011
A. 27/23:40:40Z
B. 36 deg 38 min N
075 deg 44 min W
C. 700 mb 2664 m
D. 60 kt
E. 125 deg 86 nm
F. 208 deg 74 kt
G. 123 deg 64 nm
H. 951 mb
I. 11 C / 3056 m
J. 14 C / 3061 m
K. 13 C / NA
L. Open E-S
M. C9
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF304 3409A IRENE OB 06
MAX FL WIND 74 KT SE QUAD 23:23:10Z
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000
UZNT13 KNHC 272353
XXAA 78007 99366 70757 11665 99951 22200 31511 00939 ///// /////
92243 23400 30008 85983 20801 29506 70653 14210 33007 88999 77999
31313 09608 82340
61616 AF304 3409A IRENE OB 07
62626 EYE SPL 3664N07574W 2344 MBL WND 31009 AEV 20802 DLM WND 30
507 950696 WL150 32012 083 REL 3664N07574W 234048 SPG 3664N07574W
234434 =
XXBB 78008 99366 70757 11665 00951 22200 11915 23600 22850 20801
33707 15410 44696 13410
21212 00951 31511 11938 33013 22917 29007 33850 29506 44696 34007
31313 09608 82340
61616 AF304 3409A IRENE OB 07
62626 EYE SPL 3664N07574W 2344 MBL WND 31009 AEV 20802 DLM WND 30
507 950696 WL150 32012 083 REL 3664N07574W 234048 SPG 3664N07574W
234434 =
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#9214 Postby HenkL » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:06 pm

000
URNT15 KNHC 272355
AF304 3409A IRENE HDOB 23 20110827
234530 3649N 07537W 6961 02757 //// +089 //// 133050 050 047 014 01
234600 3650N 07536W 6958 02770 //// +085 //// 131051 052 046 013 01
234630 3652N 07534W 6955 02782 9596 +111 //// 132053 053 048 007 01
234700 3653N 07533W 6957 02787 //// +115 //// 137054 055 049 006 01
234730 3654N 07531W 6958 02796 //// +107 //// 138057 059 049 008 01
234800 3655N 07530W 6957 02803 //// +090 //// 140059 059 048 011 01
234830 3656N 07528W 6954 02815 //// +096 //// 140059 060 049 008 01
234900 3657N 07526W 6959 02814 //// +101 //// 141058 059 049 008 01
234930 3659N 07525W 6957 02823 //// +085 //// 142059 059 049 010 01
235000 3700N 07523W 6957 02827 //// +094 //// 144059 060 050 009 01
235030 3701N 07522W 6958 02835 //// +108 //// 146061 062 050 007 01
235100 3702N 07520W 6958 02839 //// +092 //// 148063 064 049 008 01
235130 3703N 07518W 6958 02843 //// +088 //// 148064 065 048 008 01
235200 3705N 07517W 6956 02851 //// +108 //// 150063 064 048 007 01
235230 3706N 07515W 6957 02856 //// +098 //// 151061 062 049 007 01
235300 3707N 07513W 6959 02858 //// +082 //// 149061 062 050 009 01
235330 3708N 07512W 6955 02865 //// +083 //// 147065 065 050 007 01
235400 3710N 07510W 6957 02871 //// +107 //// 147065 066 050 005 01
235430 3711N 07508W 6957 02873 //// +110 //// 150066 066 050 004 01
235500 3712N 07507W 6958 02879 //// +101 //// 151066 066 050 004 01
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9215 Postby maxintensity » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:07 pm

Airboy wrote:L. Eye Character: Open, Open E-S
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 9 nautical mile

This is the first time in about 36 hours that a VDM has come back with any information about the eyewall. It previosuly have no eyewall.
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#9216 Postby HenkL » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:10 pm

000
UZNT13 KNHC 280001
XXAA 78007 99370 70753 11675 99969 22604 10549 00780 ///// /////
92402 21201 13065 85136 18202 14055 70797 10000 15063 88999 77999
31313 09608 82350
61616 AF304 3409A IRENE OB 08
62626 MXWNDBND SPL 3708N07539W 2354 MBL WND 12059 AEV 20802 DLM W
ND 13558 968696 WL150 11053 084 REL 3703N07534W 235052 SPG 3707N0
7540W 235410 =
XXBB 78008 99370 70753 11675 00969 22604 11850 18202 22817 18203
33788 18403 44776 16404 55724 15202 66696 09200
21212 00969 10549 11941 12562 22927 13065 33907 13561 44885 14063
55874 14057 66850 14055 77696 15063
31313 09608 82350
61616 AF304 3409A IRENE OB 08
62626 MXWNDBND SPL 3708N07539W 2354 MBL WND 12059 AEV 20802 DLM W
ND 13558 968696 WL150 11053 084 REL 3703N07534W 235052 SPG 3707N0
7540W 235410 =
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9217 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:11 pm

I dare say that maybe Irene will be the end of the way we categorize storms as we know it. Could this signal the end of the Saffir Simpson scale? People tend to ignore a Cat 1 and this time I think it goes to show that a large Cat 1 can be just as bad as a small Cat 4. Ike showed us the same thing as well. I think it is time for a revamping of the way we categorize these storms.

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#9218 Postby HenkL » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:13 pm

000
URNT15 KNHC 280005
AF304 3409A IRENE HDOB 24 20110827
235530 3713N 07505W 6958 02880 //// +110 //// 151064 064 050 002 01
235600 3715N 07503W 6958 02886 //// +109 //// 151061 062 051 003 01
235630 3716N 07501W 6958 02891 //// +104 //// 152061 061 050 005 01
235700 3717N 07500W 6955 02898 //// +083 //// 153060 062 050 007 01
235730 3718N 07458W 6959 02896 //// +088 //// 150062 063 051 007 01
235800 3719N 07456W 6956 02904 //// +097 //// 148060 062 049 003 01
235830 3721N 07455W 6957 02907 //// +097 //// 148063 064 048 004 01
235900 3722N 07453W 6958 02910 //// +105 //// 147062 062 047 004 01
235930 3723N 07451W 6957 02914 //// +099 //// 148063 063 047 005 01
000000 3724N 07450W 6957 02921 //// +101 //// 149063 063 048 003 01
000030 3726N 07448W 6958 02920 //// +100 //// 149064 064 047 005 01
000100 3727N 07446W 6957 02922 //// +088 //// 149066 066 048 006 01
000130 3728N 07445W 6957 02930 //// +087 //// 148066 066 048 007 01
000200 3729N 07443W 6956 02933 //// +079 //// 148066 067 049 010 01
000230 3730N 07441W 6957 02935 //// +082 //// 150071 072 048 009 01
000300 3732N 07440W 6955 02942 //// +093 //// 148074 074 046 005 01
000330 3733N 07438W 6958 02945 //// +095 //// 148075 077 047 005 01
000400 3734N 07436W 6961 02942 //// +090 //// 147080 082 049 002 01
000430 3735N 07435W 6957 02953 //// +090 //// 148078 079 048 003 01
000500 3736N 07433W 6958 02956 //// +096 //// 148075 075 050 001 01
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#9219 Postby Swimdude » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:15 pm

Where do you all think Irene will landfall next? The track is REALLY close to Maryland/Delaware, but she shouldn't technically make another landfall until New Jersey. Of course we won't talk about the possibility of no other landfall until New York.
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#9220 Postby WeatherLovingDoc » Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:15 pm

HokieNav wrote:First, as a n00b that registered just for this storm, I want to say THANKS to all of the smart folks here that provide such an amazing wealth of information. I'll definitely stick around. I live in Odenton, MD (halfway between Washington and Baltimore and the winds are finally starting to pick up around here after a long afternoon of just rain.

WeatherLovingDoc wrote:Hahaha. Mike Sidel just said on TWC he hopes that the toursists might be able to come back to OBX as soon as tomorrow for tourism sake.

Can you imagine what I64 and tributories look like, with all their trees? :idea:

Yeah, that might be a bit much - however I've been absolutely THRILLED to see how well the OBX seem to have cone through this one. I've got reservations at a oceanfront house in Duck starting next Sunday (4 September), and while I'm trying to not get to excited, I'm hoping that we'll be about to follow through with the vacation. I'm sure that things won't be back to normal, but I would hope that a week is enough to make it "good enough". Really, as long as there's a house and a beach and an ocean, I'm happy.


For sure, HokieNav (VTech, I take it, Go Hokies!), I hope for all too a quick return to normalcy as soon as all safety measures have been confirmed: structural, sanitation, safe roads both local and to and from, and of course public refrigeration, food etc. There will be lots of sunshine after this storm.

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