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#781 Postby Jevo » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:38 pm

SootyTern wrote:
meriland23 wrote:Anyone have a model of the current projected path over top a looped satelite image of Katia to get a good idea whether it is heading more south or north of the PP?


Is this what you're looking for? Click 'trop pts' box in upper right corner for NHC forecast points. And welcome to the world of wobble-watching!

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/flash-vis.html


The Wundermap over at weather underground is also fun to goof around with... Options are on the right... click on satellite.. change frame #s and animate

http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/? ... &ft=0&sl=0

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#782 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:39 pm

Blown Away wrote:Image

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Interesting the 18z NHC hugging TVCN shows a WSW dip at the end, is it a pattern change or a hiccup in the model program? :D


One of the GFS ensembles take it westward toward Florida/GOM...
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#783 Postby mascpa » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:45 pm

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#784 Postby HurricaneBelle » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:48 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:One of the GFS ensembles take it westward toward Florida/GOM...


Plus, that darn XTRP hits us almost every time!

(yes, I know it isn't a model)
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#785 Postby stewart715 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:48 pm

I'm having trouble relying on late cycle GFS, especially when it comes to pressure and strength. I think this is going to surprise people with a dangerously western track.
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#786 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:53 pm

If current trends continue she will likely become a hurricane tomorrow sometime.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#787 Postby jhpigott » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:54 pm

stewart715 wrote:I'm having trouble relying on late cycle GFS, especially when it comes to pressure and strength. I think this is going to surprise people with a dangerously western track.


Stacy - is that you??? :D


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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#788 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:54 pm

stewart715 wrote:I'm having trouble relying on late cycle GFS, especially when it comes to pressure and strength. I think this is going to surprise people with a dangerously western track.


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#789 Postby meriland23 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:55 pm

looks as though it is on a slight southern track versus the projection. Then again that could be a wodbble.
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#790 Postby CourierPR » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:55 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:If current trends continue she will likely become a hurricane tomorrow sometime.


Aric, what is your take on the future track?
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#791 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:58 pm

Its too early. Models all had Irene completely recurving and missing everything before the Western Antilles. I dont trust them this far out.


Ill wait to make a call until Friday. We will know then. I am more concerned over the BOC consensus. :sun:
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#792 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:59 pm

They are just playing with odds this far out. one model aimed at Florida, Another model aimed at North Carolina and a Third aimed at Southern New England. That is similar to saying there is a 5 percent chance of a Florida landfall but a 15% chance of a landfall somewhere along the East coast at this point.

Now come back when Katia passes through the Caribbean Hebert box and see what is going on with the ridge forecast at that time and we might have an interesting tracking problem to analyze.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#793 Postby charlesw » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:09 pm

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we have an eyewall developing
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#794 Postby AHS2011 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:13 pm

Hard to think that Katia was just a tropical depression this morning. Hurricane by 8 P.M. tonight is my prediction
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#795 Postby meriland23 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:14 pm

question, if a hurricane forms from this sooner than expected, does that indicate

A: curve much sooner, more likely to fish or push further east in due time.

B: Strength dissipation is likely more sooner.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#796 Postby BigA » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:19 pm

meriland23 wrote:question, if a hurricane forms from this sooner than expected, does that indicate

A: curve much sooner, more likely to fish or push further east in due time.

B: Strength dissipation is likely more sooner.



It depends on the steering flow. But the by-and large rule, with many exceptions, is that a stronger storm tends to go poleward (recurve more rapidly). But a storm getting strong quickly does not mean it is using up its energy and will weaken earlier than normal later.

Also center looks about 12.4N 34.9W per that image.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#797 Postby AHS2011 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:21 pm

Does anyone know what the current dvorak number for Katia is?
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#798 Postby Shuriken » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:23 pm

Cranica wrote:This should be a gorgeous, classic Cape Verde storm. Given how rapidly she's strengthening and the rather spectacular satellite presentation, I'm thinking 100kt at 5 days is pretty conservative.
Yep. ...it'll be interesting to see if an Isabel track produces another Isabel storm:

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#799 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:25 pm

Sure does look like its on its way today to becoming a hurricane, wrapping up into a classic looking system already.

Expecting a hurricane tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#800 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:29 pm

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