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#981 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:04 am

Where's the EURO?

You guys are slacking. I'd post it but I'm on my phone.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#982 Postby meriland23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:09 am

Blown Away wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Still appears to be little threat to the NE Caribbean. Should pass 200-300 miles to the northeast. Unlikely it will threaten the eastern U.S., either, though that's just a little bit less certain.


What keeps the CONUS a little bit less certain?


Or in other words, more favorable than before.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#983 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:13 am

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#984 Postby jhpigott » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:14 am

AdamFirst wrote:Where's the EURO?

You guys are slacking. I'd post it but I'm on my phone.


and for that matter the 06z GFS?
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#985 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:16 am

A good model page is here: http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models.html

and for the GFS here: http://instantweathermaps.com/
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#986 Postby jhpigott » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:16 am

Blown Away wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Still appears to be little threat to the NE Caribbean. Should pass 200-300 miles to the northeast. Unlikely it will threaten the eastern U.S., either, though that's just a little bit less certain.


What keeps the CONUS a little bit less certain?


Maybe WXman57 is referring to the latest HRWF and CMC which show a healthy bend back to the west as Katia passes north of NE Caribbean? (see model thread)
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#987 Postby TheBurn » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:20 am

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#988 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:09 am

Latest spaghetti plot, there are a few models showing a bend back to the west now. That is interesting. We will have to watch if this is a trend or not:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal ... el%20plots
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#989 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:09 am

She is getting very close to a hurricane eyewall forming.

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#990 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:12 am

jhpigott wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Still appears to be little threat to the NE Caribbean. Should pass 200-300 miles to the northeast. Unlikely it will threaten the eastern U.S., either, though that's just a little bit less certain.


What keeps the CONUS a little bit less certain?


Maybe WXman57 is referring to the latest HRWF and CMC which show a healthy bend back to the west as Katia passes north of NE Caribbean? (see model thread)


There is a little uncertainty as far as an East Coast of U.S. impact because it looks like a few model runs overnight have shown a bend to the west at the end (CMC, BAMS, HWRF, and some of the GFS ensembles). We will have to watch if there is a trend here or not especially with the other models such as the ECMWF and GFS.

Majority are still showing a recurve well east of the US mainland though.
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#991 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:12 am

I'd go with 60 kt for the advisory based on the latest structure.
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#992 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:12 am

I see the 00z guidance is not in agreement much anymore.. I imagine because of its fast pace the over the last day or so.
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#993 Postby terrapintransit » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:14 am

gatorcane wrote:Latest spaghetti plot, there are a few models showing a bend back to the west now. That is interesting. We will have to watch if this is a trend or not:

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal ... el%20plots




Yes...getting interesting indeed

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#994 Postby stewart715 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:19 am

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#995 Postby stewart715 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:20 am

Something tells me GFS is off on this one (straying way too far north early on). I still think this has a very good chance to (and likely will) stray back east out to sea or possible NS as a TS. However, that being said, I think the ensembles don't necessarily perform well that far out and we could be in for a very big surprise. She's already surprised us with growth and accelerated ground speed. Who know's what could happen next.

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#996 Postby LeeNess87 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:26 am

stewart715 wrote:Something tells me GFS is off on this one (straying way too far north early on). I still think this has a very good chance to (and likely will) stray back east out to sea or possible NS as a TS. However, that being said, I think the ensembles don't necessarily perform well that far out and we could be in for a very big surprise. She's already surprised us with growth and accelerated ground speed. Who know's what could happen next.

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I can see where the GFS could be a little too far east. I agree. I hope Katia doesn't become annular...although beautiful, could be hard to predict!
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#997 Postby stewart715 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:29 am

LeeNess87 wrote:
I can see where the GFS could be a little too far east. I agree. I hope Katia doesn't become annular...although beautiful, could be hard to predict!

Unfortunately, I think she might be heading that way. As unusual as they are, so has Katia been from the start, IMO.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#998 Postby CaneCurious » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:31 am

With the looks of the models bending back west, does anyone think that Katia could cross FL into the GOM like Andrew or that other infamous K storm?
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#999 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:32 am

OK enough already. We can not take the stress of even a hint of Katia. Today I booked two tickets to Judy Collins concert on Sept 9 (my 60th) in Norfolk. Yes, I'm sure you Gen X and Y are asking who is Judy Collins? Also because the local mets last night said that all models were taking her out to sea and it was nothing to worry about. I feel better already :roll:
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1000 Postby stewart715 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:33 am

CaneCurious wrote:With the looks of the models bending back west, does anyone think that Katia could cross FL into the GOM like Andrew or that other infamous K storm?


Katia could head over there, although this is beginning to remind me alot of Isabel.
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