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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#361 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:28 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z NAM shifted SW through 36 hours. At this time during its 18z run it was inland in LA. Just south of Lake Charles on this run.
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... mageSize=M



Looks like the initialization is too far west and south.



No if you look at its initial 850mb vorticity max, it is pretty much exactly where the 850mb vort max is on the ssec wisconsin site.
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#362 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:29 pm

Just reminding......

This Thread is for posts of models and discussions thereof dealing with those model posts. All other posts need to be posted in the general discussion thread of Invest 93L!!

Thanks for cooperating!!
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#363 Postby Florida1118 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:30 pm

NHC says conditions are going to get better in a day or so, so we must wait and see
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#364 Postby Annie Oakley » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:30 pm

Fay was amazing....watered the whole state of Florida. Over and over and over and over again. Just to make sure.
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#365 Postby SouthDadeFish » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:31 pm

Shear is definitely the limiting factor for intensification for 93L. The environment is moist, SSTs are very high, and vorticity has continued to improve as the day went on. I'm thinking that as soon as the shear lets up, which will probably be tomorrow, we will see a tropical depression form. Although the SHIPS doesn't ever show wind shear dropping too low, it still strengthens 93L at a steady rate, probably due to the very warm waters. This is not a professional forecast, but just my opinion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#366 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:31 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z NAM shifted SW through 36 hours. At this time during its 18z run it was inland in LA. Just south of Lake Charles on this run.
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... mageSize=M



Looks like the initialization is too far west and south.



No if you look at its initial 850mb vorticity max, it is pretty much exactly where the 850mb vort max is on the ssec wisconsin site.[/quote

Best Track though has placed the surface low at 24.5 87.5
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#367 Postby underthwx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:31 pm

as much as we need some rain here in my state...i think im hoping this one will go away...and not threaten our friends in the eastern and central gulf....or us....





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#368 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:32 pm

Annie Oakley wrote:Fay was amazing....watered the whole state of Florida. Over and over and over and over again. Just to make sure.


I sure do hope future Lee waters the whole state of Texas!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#369 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:33 pm

Guys, this is the model thread. Any posts not related to a discussion or posting of a model run should not be in here.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#370 Postby paintplaye » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:35 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z NAM shifted SW through 36 hours. At this time during its 18z run it was inland in LA. Just south of Lake Charles on this run.
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... mageSize=M



Looks like the initialization is too far west and south.



No if you look at its initial 850mb vorticity max, it is pretty much exactly where the 850mb vort max is on the ssec wisconsin site.[/quote

Best Track though has placed the surface low at 24.5 87.5[/quote]


While the initialization may have been a little to the south the NAM ends up jumping back to the NW pretty soon after initialization
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#371 Postby sphelps8681 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:36 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z NAM shifted SW through 36 hours. At this time during its 18z run it was inland in LA. Just south of Lake Charles on this run.
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... mageSize=M



Looks like the initialization is too far west and south.


I am very novice in all this, but I would truly like to understand your thinking behind it being to far west and south. Is there some link or info I can read so I can read that you might be referring to. I am sure there are a lot of others on here that might want to understand a little better.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#372 Postby SeminoleWind » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:37 pm

ronjon wrote:LOL, looks like someone threw a plate of spaghetti at a wall.

[img]https://my.sfwmd.gov/sfwmd/common/images/weather/plots/storm_93.gif[ /img]



What the heck, lol i don't think i have ever seen the model tracks so crazy.
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#373 Postby Radiogirltx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:40 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:Just reminding......

This Thread is for posts of models and discussions thereof dealing with those model posts. All other posts need to be posted in the general discussion thread of Invest 93L!!

Thanks for cooperating!!


Dang it, sorry. Been going back and forth between the two forums. Sometimes I forget where I'm at. :oops: I'll post my landfall question over there.....
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#374 Postby Radiogirltx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:43 pm

With this storm Having the possibility of multiple landfalls, it got me
To wondering. Which past storm has the distinction of most landfalls in it's track, before falling below TS status?
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#375 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:44 pm

Thanks NTX, looks like there is potential for shear to really try and tear at this for the next few days and try to keep it from getting to strong. Won't keep the rains from coming for days though if this sticks around like most models are showing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#376 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:44 pm

sphelps8681 wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:0z NAM shifted SW through 36 hours. At this time during its 18z run it was inland in LA. Just south of Lake Charles on this run.
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appc ... mageSize=M



Looks like the initialization is too far west and south.


I am very novice in all this, but I would truly like to understand your thinking behind it being to far west and south. Is there some link or info I can read so I can read that you might be referring to. I am sure there are a lot of others on here that might want to understand a little better.



The link above starts with the L (Low) just north of the Yucatan and then it jumps SW before moving NW. The initial place the L (Low) begins is a bit further west and south than 24.5N 87.5W where they have placed the current surface Low as it appears too me.
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#377 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:45 pm

Radiogirltx wrote:With this storm Having the possibility of multiple landfalls, it got me
To wondering. Which past storm has the distinction of most landfalls in it's track, before falling below TS status?


Fay has to be up there, at least for US impacts.
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#378 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:47 pm

0Z NAM begins moving the Storm to the East once off the SW LA Coast at 78hrs.
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#379 Postby nashrobertsx » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:56 pm

The models aren't REALLY all over the place at all....if you look at landfall points, they are pretty much between Upper Texas and Ms. The reason people think they are all over the place is because of the looping or meandering which is surely expected with this system because of weak steering currents. Of course the less this thing is organized, the more widespread the rain and wind will be, but if it really winds up then it could just be a small little core out there not giving any land any rainfall for a while. This is going to be interesting.
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#380 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:00 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:0Z NAM begins moving the Storm to the East once off the SW LA Coast at 78hrs.


Yeah it looks like it did a loop during the last 24 hours of the run.
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