ATL: MARIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#821 Postby SeminoleWind » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:29 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:Its hard to believe the GFS when it has Maria going north through the ridge which is not likely


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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#822 Postby BigA » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:31 pm

I wonder if the best case scenario for everyone would be for this to remain a weak tropical storm so that it doesn't cause much harm in the islands, but catches the trough to turn it northward. If Maria degenerated into a tropical wave, wouldn't it simply move westward with the flow and be much less influenced by troughs, so that it could get into the western Caribbean and conceivably redevelop there...way out in the future, but a thought.

I've noticed that when the NHC lists a storm as maintaining its strength for 5 days that is often a sign that they believe it will dissipate or weaken but are not certain enough to make that prediction outright. I understand this and have no problem with it, but it probably does mean that dissipation is a possibility.
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#823 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:32 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:Florida in general has been lucky since 2005.


Except for the 300+ of us that were flooded out in Central FL by TS Fay in Aug 2008.

Sorry MODs, def OT, but give me a mulligan :D
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#824 Postby sunnyday » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:33 pm

When I hear "hurricane" this year, my mind jumps directly to "recurve." While I definitely don't want a hurricane to hit anywhere, I am so BORED with all of these silly recurves. 8-)
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#825 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:38 pm

sunnyday wrote:When I hear "hurricane" this year, my mind jumps directly to "recurve." While I definitely don't want a hurricane to hit anywhere, I am so BORED with all of these silly recurves. 8-)


I agree. This is getting boring now. After 2005, yes, we needed a break, but now its been 3 years that is recurve after recurve...
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#826 Postby chrisjslucia » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:38 pm

cycloneye wrote:
msbee wrote:Results for St.Maarten/St.Martin (18.05N, 63.12W):
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 18.2N, 63.0W or about 8.6 miles (13.9 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 78.3 hours (Saturday, September 10 at 5:18PM AST).


The 5 PM track is a little bit away.

Results for St.Maarten/St.Martin (18.05N, 63.12W):
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 18.3N, 63.0W or about 15.8 miles (25.5 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 69.7 hours (Saturday, September 10 at 2:42PM AST).


For St Lucia, very little difference in distance (but a comforting 212 miles) more or less from the same spot - as she crosses Antigua. But it has come forward in time considerably to Friday at 9.48 pm AST - 52+hours from the time of this post. This lady is fast! Good luck to all in Antigua, Barbuda and St Martin.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#827 Postby WeatherGuesser » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:45 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:
sunnyday wrote:When I hear "hurricane" this year, my mind jumps directly to "recurve." While I definitely don't want a hurricane to hit anywhere, I am so BORED with all of these silly recurves. 8-)


I agree. This is getting boring now. After 2005, yes, we needed a break, but now its been 3 years that is recurve after recurve...



Nothing wrong with that at all. Let'em all spin out to sea for the forseeable future.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#828 Postby RL3AO » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:47 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:
sunnyday wrote:When I hear "hurricane" this year, my mind jumps directly to "recurve." While I definitely don't want a hurricane to hit anywhere, I am so BORED with all of these silly recurves. 8-)


I agree. This is getting boring now. After 2005, yes, we needed a break, but now its been 3 years that is recurve after recurve...


This has been one of the worst years this country has seen in terms of natural disasters. Cities have been wiped off the map by tornadoes. Most of Texas is experiencing a once in a lifetime drought. There have been large floods on the east coast. Your need for a hurricane to threaten the US for entertainment purposes is pathetic to say the least.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#829 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:50 pm

Irene wasn't a recurve, she was a prolific rain producer with damage estimates in the billions and Lee's remnants are not making things any better. 2004, 2005, and 2008 were awful years that I'm glad we aren't reliving. By the way the season's not over yet and with the Cape Verde season gradually shutting down, all activity will shift closer to home in the next few weeks. Plus we still don't have an grasp on what and where Maria and Nate will go and how strong they will be.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#830 Postby kirium » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:52 pm

chrisjslucia wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
msbee wrote:Results for St.Maarten/St.Martin (18.05N, 63.12W):
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 18.2N, 63.0W or about 8.6 miles (13.9 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 78.3 hours (Saturday, September 10 at 5:18PM AST).


The 5 PM track is a little bit away.

Results for St.Maarten/St.Martin (18.05N, 63.12W):
The approximate Closest Point of Approach (CPA) is located near 18.3N, 63.0W or about 15.8 miles (25.5 km) from your location. The estimated time of when the center of the storm will be at that location is in about 69.7 hours (Saturday, September 10 at 2:42PM AST).


For St Lucia, very little difference in distance (but a comforting 212 miles) more or less from the same spot - as she crosses Antigua. But it has come forward in time considerably to Friday at 9.48 pm AST - 52+hours from the time of this post. This lady is fast! Good luck to all in Antigua, Barbuda and St Martin.


Yuck, unfortunately my plane from San Juan is supposed to land in Antigua at 9:00pm....

I wonder if they'll close the airport for a tropical storm?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#831 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:58 pm

Yuck, unfortunately my plane from San Juan is supposed to land in Antigua at 9:00pm....

I wonder if they'll close the airport for a tropical storm?




You may have to call your carrier to see what will be the status of your flight.
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#832 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:04 pm

Man the GFS is super fast compared to the NHC. GFS has it approaching just north of Barbados in about 36 hours... thats a good 12+ faster than the NHC 5pm forecast. seems odd.

Also the 18z run is a little farther to the SW and stronger.. actually showing up at the 500mb level and going through the NE islands
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#833 Postby Gustywind » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:04 pm

Martinica, Guadeloupe and the Northern Leewards are since 5PM under an yellow alert cyclone by Meteo-France.
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#834 Postby AdamFirst » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:12 pm

Gustywind wrote:Martinica, Guadeloupe and the Northern Leewards are since 5PM under an yellow alert cyclone by Meteo-France.


Hopefully it's nothing more than a wet, breezy day for you guys in the islands :)
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#835 Postby expat2carib » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:13 pm

Hi Gusty,

The yellow alert must be because of the wave in front of Maria.......don't you think so?

A yellow for Maria sounds too soon for me.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#836 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:13 pm

RL3AO wrote:
HurricaneWarning92 wrote:
sunnyday wrote:When I hear "hurricane" this year, my mind jumps directly to "recurve." While I definitely don't want a hurricane to hit anywhere, I am so BORED with all of these silly recurves. 8-)


I agree. This is getting boring now. After 2005, yes, we needed a break, but now its been 3 years that is recurve after recurve...


This has been one of the worst years this country has seen in terms of natural disasters. Cities have been wiped off the map by tornadoes. Most of Texas is experiencing a once in a lifetime drought. There have been large floods on the east coast. Your need for a hurricane to threaten the US for entertainment purposes is pathetic to say the least.


huh. i said something wrong? i didnt mean to come off like that...
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#837 Postby KWT » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:16 pm

I'm guessing reconm will head into this system within the next couple of days as well...

Looks like a threat to the NE Caribbean, suspect rain will be the main worry at the moment unless shear weakens alot inn the near future.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#838 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:18 pm

decent shift SW from the 12z and stronger.


18z
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12z
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#839 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:20 pm

KWT wrote:I'm guessing reconm will head into this system within the next couple of days as well...

Looks like a threat to the NE Caribbean, suspect rain will be the main worry at the moment unless shear weakens alot inn the near future.


Recon for tommorow afternoon.

Code: Select all

TROPICAL STORM MARIA
FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 70
A. 08/2000Z
B. AFXXX 0114A MARIA
C. 08/1700Z
D. 14.3N 52.0W
E. 08/1930Z TO 08/2230Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#840 Postby sunnyday » Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:23 pm

If you read my post closely, I stated that I did not want a hurricane to threaten anyone anywhere. I don't find natural disasters to be "entertainment." I just find recurves repetitive and therefore boring. 8-)
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