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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#521 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:33 am

For being mid-January,those Atlantic waters for the most part are from slightly to above average. Let's see how they continue in the next few months.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#522 Postby cycloneye » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:43 pm

The GOM is one of the warmest areas right now in the Atlantic Basin.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#523 Postby HouTXmetro » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:51 pm

can someone post the new anomaly maps? with the warm winter the gulf coast has had i would assume the water should be above average.
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#524 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:22 am

HouTXmetro wrote:can someone post the new anomaly maps? with the warm winter the gulf coast has had i would assume the water should be above average.


Here are the latest sst anomalies and the GOM continues to be very warm.Also,the GulfStream waters off the East Coast are very,very warm.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#525 Postby ROCK » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:59 pm

yep I suspected the GOM would be primed as we enter April. Seems incredibly early to see temps like this. Might lead to a fast start to this season. JMO...
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#526 Postby wxman57 » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:09 am

Latest Euro is predicting near normal SSTs this season across most of the tropical Atlantic. Also, note what the Euro is forecasting in the Tropical Pacific - El Nino.

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#527 Postby cycloneye » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:21 am

From the CSU Facebook page:

You can see significant cooling has taken place in the tropical Atlantic since the start of last winter. We likely have a positive North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) to thank for this cooling. Very strong anomalous westerly wind flow and a strong subtropical high have caused increased wind-induced cooling due to mixing and upwelling. In addition strong mid-latitude westerlies cause anomalous ocean currents out of the north, which also drives cooling along the eastern part of the basin.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#528 Postby cycloneye » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:37 am

A question to wxman57. Are the GOM and Gulfstream waters so warm at this time of the year because of the mild winter or there are other reasons?

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#529 Postby wxman57 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:49 am

cycloneye wrote:A question to wxman57. Are the GOM and Gulfstream waters so warm at this time of the year because of the mild winter or there are other reasons?

http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/oper/nat ... _oper0.png


That's just about the whole reason, cycloneye. Lack of deep cold airmasses moving out across the Gulf or off the East U.S. Coast this year has kept the water temps above normal. This doesn't necessarily mean that the same areas will remain so much above normal in the Summer. These same temps we're observing today would be considered to be below normal if this was June. But I do expect that ocean temps across the northern Gulf and along the East U.S. Coast will remain at least a little above normal this summer. Temps in the Caribbean and Tropical Atlantic will likely be near normal or perhaps a little below normal, due to increased trade winds resulting in upwelling of cooler water.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#530 Postby cycloneye » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:26 am

Here are the latest sst anomalies update for the North Atlantic and look how it continues to warm in the GOM and off the East Coast of the U.S.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#531 Postby cycloneye » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:17 am

Is a little bit more warmer west of 40W longitude if you compare the data with last week's graphic at above post. But look how warm are those sst anomalies in the GOM and off the East Coast of the U.S.

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#532 Postby NDG » Thu May 03, 2012 8:02 pm

Perhaps a nice warm up for Atlantic's MDR waters coming up with the NAO taking a nice dive over the next couple of weeks.

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Euro shows the Azores High to be nearly nonexistent during the next few days.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#533 Postby ROCK » Sat May 05, 2012 10:17 pm

they are warming up nicely compared to last year. With the forecast looking more and more Nuetral during the peak and we havent hit the highest sun angle this could bust some lower number predictions.
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#534 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 06, 2012 1:17 am

ROCK wrote:they are warming up nicely compared to last year. With the forecast looking more and more Nuetral during the peak and we havent hit the highest sun angle this could bust some lower number predictions.

I don't know if it will be Neutral during the peak...

Vertical shear over the Atlantic remains above average:

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#535 Postby ROCK » Sun May 06, 2012 3:42 am

yep.....but we are not even close to D-day.....JAS is prime....Felix and Dean come to mind....I think the numbers are to low and they will be adjusted up as we get closer.....JMO.....everyone seems to be dead set on EL Nino come peak.....I would bet that nuetral conditions will prevail in JAS.....this is not an El Nino year. Maybe come Oct into next year. Of course that is if there is a next year.... :D
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#536 Postby Ntxw » Mon May 07, 2012 2:14 pm

ROCK wrote:yep.....but we are not even close to D-day.....JAS is prime....Felix and Dean come to mind....I think the numbers are to low and they will be adjusted up as we get closer.....JMO.....everyone seems to be dead set on EL Nino come peak.....I would bet that nuetral conditions will prevail in JAS.....this is not an El Nino year. Maybe come Oct into next year. Of course that is if there is a next year.... :D


The rise in SOI lately could back your ideas. However based on other factors I still say amount wise it might be below neutral or El Nino. That does not mean weaker storms...neutral, el nino, or la nina, water temps come peak season is ALWAYS warm enough to support a big one. The question is will the atmosphere allow their formation, should monitor activity in Africa and surrounding waters early in the season. More waves = more chances for storms to form (even home brews sometimes have origins from there)!
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#537 Postby ROCK » Tue May 08, 2012 12:16 am

Kingarabian wrote:
ROCK wrote:they are warming up nicely compared to last year. With the forecast looking more and more Nuetral during the peak and we havent hit the highest sun angle this could bust some lower number predictions.

I don't know if it will be Neutral during the peak...

Vertical shear over the Atlantic remains above average:

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its May... :lol:
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#538 Postby vbhoutex » Wed May 09, 2012 8:56 pm

ROCK wrote:yep.....but we are not even close to D-day.....JAS is prime....Felix and Dean come to mind....I think the numbers are to low and they will be adjusted up as we get closer.....JMO.....everyone seems to be dead set on EL Nino come peak.....I would bet that nuetral conditions will prevail in JAS.....this is not an El Nino year. Maybe come Oct into next year. Of course that is if there is a next year.... :D

LOL @ your last sentence. :D
It seems more and more are coming around to neutral through the summer which could be a game changer. It is going to be interesting to watch.
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#539 Postby ROCK » Thu May 10, 2012 12:17 am

vbhoutex wrote:
ROCK wrote:yep.....but we are not even close to D-day.....JAS is prime....Felix and Dean come to mind....I think the numbers are to low and they will be adjusted up as we get closer.....JMO.....everyone seems to be dead set on EL Nino come peak.....I would bet that nuetral conditions will prevail in JAS.....this is not an El Nino year. Maybe come Oct into next year. Of course that is if there is a next year.... :D

LOL @ your last sentence. :D
It seems more and more are coming around to neutral through the summer which could be a game changer. It is going to be interesting to watch.



yes it will be.....the Aussie model showed very close to neutral and a very weak EL Nino come peak. I dont think its going to make that much difference. GFS already poppin...
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#540 Postby Ntxw » Thu May 10, 2012 7:02 pm

The TNA (tropical north atlantic index, anomaly average of middle north atlantic) is negative overall. Last negative readings of such duration was in 2009 and before that 2002. Another similar rising analog with similar numbers and data is 1992.

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/data/correlation/tna.data
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