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#361 Postby NDG » Fri May 25, 2012 2:07 pm

Check out the winds from the buoy Aric posted just a few miles north of the circulation!
This could get upgraded in just hours, IMO.

Conditions at 41002 as of
(2:50 pm EDT)
1850 GMT on 05/25/2012:
Wind Direction (WDIR): ESE ( 120 deg true )
Wind Speed (WSPD): 31.1 kts
Wind Gust (GST): 38.9 kts
Wave Height (WVHT): 7.9 ft
Dominant Wave Period (DPD): 8 sec
Average Period (APD): 6.0 sec
Mean Wave Direction (MWD): SE ( 143 deg true )
Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.79 in
Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.13 in ( Falling Rapidly )
Air Temperature (ATMP): 74.8 °F
Water Temperature (WTMP): 77.9 °F
Dew Point (DEWP): 74.7 °F
Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure
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Re: ATL:INVEST 94L:Special Tropical Weather Outlook=Code Red-80%

#362 Postby tolakram » Fri May 25, 2012 2:07 pm

10 frame live visible loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=10

Sped up you can really see what looks like an LLC getting organized. Could this be mid-level instead?
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Re: ATL:INVEST 94L:Special Tropical Weather Outlook=Code Red-80%

#363 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri May 25, 2012 2:09 pm

tolakram wrote:10 frame live visible loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=10

Sped up you can really see what looks like an LLC getting organized. Could this be mid-level instead?


unlikely there are surface obs to support it.
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#364 Postby northjaxpro » Fri May 25, 2012 2:09 pm

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I believe the system will be upgraded to Tropical Storm Beryl tomorrow afternoon after recon investigates. By then, it should be fully stacked with the upper level disturbance/low to its northwest and should be in a low wind shear environment. Gradual strengthening is expected tomorrow and tomorrow night, followed by slow weakening as the system approaches the FL/GA border due to the effects of the shelf waters. At this time, I am forecasting a peak intensity of 60 knots--give or take 5 mph. If 94L tries enough, it could briefly become a hurricane. Overall, the environment is more conducive than with Alberto, so a 60 mph+ peak is definitely likely.



This is a pretty good analysis. Interesting next few days shaping up down here that's for sure.
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Re: ATL:INVEST 94L:Special Tropical Weather Outlook=Code Red-80%

#365 Postby crimi481 » Fri May 25, 2012 2:21 pm

Not convinced yet as to where final Low Center ends up
Is it possible energy tranferred back south - and forms near N. Bahamas ?
Almost looks like the "base" forming there, and slight turning - but not sure

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/geo/index ... thod=flash
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#366 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri May 25, 2012 2:22 pm

Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert

ALERT ATCF MIL 94X XXX 120525000000
2012052500
26.5 281.4
33.5 285.0
100
26.5 281.4
250200
1205250200
1
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT//
WTNT21 KNGU 250200
RMKS/1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE WITHIN
100 NM EITHER SIDE OF A LINE FROM 26.5N 78.6W TO 33.5N 75.0W
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY
ISSUANCE OF NUMBERED TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN
THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED TO BE 10 TO 15 KNOTS. THE SYSTEM IS MOVING
NORTHEASTWARD AT 19 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: THE LOW HAS BECOME BETTER DEFINED HOWEVER THE
SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS PERSISTING OVER THIS AREA HAVE REMAINED
DISORGANIZED DUE TO THE UNFAVORABLE HIGH WIND SHEAR ENVIRONMENT
CURRENTLY INFLUENCING THE SYSTEM. UPPER LEVEL WIND SHEAR IS EXPECTED
TO DECREASE TO ALLOW FURTHER DEVELOPMENT WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS.
ADDITIONALLY, WARM SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES OF 80 TO 82 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT
MAY ENHANCE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE UPGRADED TO A WARNING OR REISSUED AS REQUIRED
BY 260200Z.//
9412052200 180N 860W 20
9412052206 180N 854W 20
9412052212 181N 849W 20
9412052218 185N 845W 25
9412052300 190N 841W 25
9412052306 196N 839W 25
9412052312 201N 835W 25
9412052318 206N 830W 25
9412052400 214N 824W 30
9412052406 227N 817W 25
9412052412 238N 813W 25
9412052418 251N 801W 35
9412052500 265N 786W 35
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Re: ATL:INVEST 94L:Special Tropical Weather Outlook=Code Red-80%

#367 Postby NDG » Fri May 25, 2012 2:27 pm

crimi481 wrote:Not convinced yet as to where final Low Center ends up
Is it possible energy tranferred back south - and forms near N. Bahamas ?
Almost looks like the "base" forming there, and slight turning - but not sure

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/geo/index ... thod=flash


Reforming back south near the northern Bahamas? Not at all.
If you do not want to look like a fool do not go against the best models, the euro and the gfs, in a short range forecast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L: STWO=Code Red-80% / TCFA issued

#368 Postby bg1 » Fri May 25, 2012 2:44 pm

Does 94L have a greater chance of becoming tropical rather than subtropical now? I noticed the wording in the outlook mentioned tropical development first over subtropical.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L: STWO=Code Red-80% / TCFA issued

#369 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 25, 2012 2:46 pm

bg1 wrote:Does 94L have a greater chance of becoming tropical rather than subtropical now? I noticed the wording in the outlook mentioned tropical development first over subtropical.


At this time,dvorak SSD T Numbers are at ST,but that could change later.

25/1745 UTC 31.0N 75.0W ST1.5 94L -- Atlantic

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/tdpositions.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L: STWO=Code Red-80% / TCFA issued

#370 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 25, 2012 2:52 pm

Aric,there is the dominante center taking shape :)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L: STWO=Code Red-80% / TCFA issued

#371 Postby stormhunter7 » Fri May 25, 2012 2:54 pm

If you look at the close-up vis, you can see the surface banding is starting and the mid level is making its way down to surface. the above image is correct
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#372 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Fri May 25, 2012 2:57 pm

Cyclone, when do you think convection will begin to fire around the LLC?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L: STWO=Code Red-80% / TCFA issued

#373 Postby Tampa_God » Fri May 25, 2012 2:58 pm

I've seen tropical storms look worse than this. :D
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#374 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 25, 2012 2:59 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Cyclone, when do you think convection will begin to fire around the LLC?


As soon the shear goes down later tonight.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L: STWO=Code Red-80% / TCFA issued

#375 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 25, 2012 3:00 pm

Peeps,you want more data? :) Here is the OSCAT.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#376 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri May 25, 2012 3:05 pm

pressure falling even faster.... pressure at the buoy ( not the center.) is now 1006mb. winds sustained at near TS force gusting to 50 mph

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#377 Postby otowntiger » Fri May 25, 2012 3:06 pm

wxman57 wrote:That circulation visible on satellite near 31N/75W looks mid level. LLC may be well west of there. But it should consolidate tonight. Looking like more of a GA/SC event than a FL impact, as most of the wind/rain will probably be north of the track.
Drat! While I certainly don't want a tropical storm in my neighborhood, I'd love to get some beneficial rain here in Central Florida. If this thing gets too organized and stays on track (well to our north) all it will do is draw moisture away from us enhancing the drought conditions. (what do they call that? subsidence?, sinking air stabilizing the atmosphere?) Anyways, I guess they could use the rain in GA for sure, and probably SC as well. It seems that most places are dry.
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#378 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri May 25, 2012 3:07 pm

I think we will get the upgrade from Invest to TS tomorrow morning. Not because it won't be a TS until tomorrow, but because the NHC will probably want to wait until morning satellite images before pulling the trigger. They tend to initiate advisories more often at 11am and 5pm than 11pm and 5am from what I remember.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#379 Postby ROCK » Fri May 25, 2012 3:09 pm

getting its act together quickly this afternoon....suspect more of the same as we head into this evening and night. Shear will keep abating from here on out.....on the chat last night I said 99.9% sure we would have Beryl by tonight. Might just happen.... :D
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#380 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri May 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Notice the high clouds on the northern side starting to fan out to the NW, The upper low is starting to cut off. shear on the next analysis show show a significant drop.
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