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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#581 Postby Sanibel » Sat May 26, 2012 10:09 am

Warm winter, expanded season imo.
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#582 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat May 26, 2012 10:09 am

Before the recon actually starts, is there any way to post images without going through imageshack?
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#583 Postby Dave » Sat May 26, 2012 10:11 am

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Before the recon actually starts, is there any way to post images without going through imageshack?


You may use any server hosting you'd like, we have imageshack on as a convenience. I use my own server because I'm used to it but photobucket, imageshack, tinypic, etc are all fine.
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#584 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat May 26, 2012 10:12 am

I'll take google earth images until I have to go. (If I do).
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#585 Postby crimi481 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:12 am

Really may get interesting in time...

WV Loop: Trop moisture/energy increasing from deep south waters (Shattered energy from Bud) -also from Beryl's 'Tail" (below W. Cuba coast) - and area 2-300 miles S. of Jamaica
The further south Beryl goes (heading s now) - the more of moisture from south Tropics will energize
Beryl's core. Ya dink?
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http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/geo/index ... thod=flash
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#586 Postby Dave » Sat May 26, 2012 10:14 am

Hurricane Andrew wrote:I'll take google earth images until I have to go. (If I do).


Sounds good to me... ;)
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#587 Postby Dave » Sat May 26, 2012 10:16 am

Ok we're going to hold this thread for HDOBS & associated pictures for them only. Any discussions please keep them in the main Beryl discussion & model threads. Thanks everyone!
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#588 Postby wxman57 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:25 am

Savannah should get a good bit of rain out of Beryl. It'll stall south of there and wait to be picked up by an approaching trof. Plenty of time for well-needed rainfall across the southeast. As for what this means for the season - not much. Neither Alberto nor Beryl was formed from tropical waves. Mostly leftover frontal boundaries. Once these are out of the picture in a few weeks such development will cease and we'll see how the tropics look after then. I still think a sub-10 season is possible.
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ATL: BERYL - Recon Discussion

#589 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat May 26, 2012 10:32 am

Discuss thread.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Recon Discussion

#590 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 26, 2012 10:37 am

The mission is delayed as it was supposed to takeoff around 11:15 AM EDT from Keesler Base.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#591 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:41 am

wxman57 wrote:Savannah should get a good bit of rain out of Beryl. It'll stall south of there and wait to be picked up by an approaching trof. Plenty of time for well-needed rainfall across the southeast. As for what this means for the season - not much. Neither Alberto nor Beryl was formed from tropical waves. Mostly leftover frontal boundaries. Once these are out of the picture in a few weeks such development will cease and we'll see how the tropics look after then. I still think a sub-10 season is possible.

Due to what?
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#592 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat May 26, 2012 10:41 am

IT maybe trying to intensify. looks like its doing a cyclonic loop and being pulled toward that developing convection.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#593 Postby SFLcane » Sat May 26, 2012 10:42 am

wxman57 wrote:Savannah should get a good bit of rain out of Beryl. It'll stall south of there and wait to be picked up by an approaching trof. Plenty of time for well-needed rainfall across the southeast. As for what this means for the season - not much. Neither Alberto nor Beryl was formed from tropical waves. Mostly leftover frontal boundaries. Once these are out of the picture in a few weeks such development will cease and we'll see how the tropics look after then. I still think a sub-10 season is possible.


Good point on beryl and alberto not forming from tw's. 2007 for example had many weak and short-lived systems punctuated by Dean and Felix.
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#594 Postby Dave » Sat May 26, 2012 10:47 am

The mission is delayed as it was supposed to takeoff around 11:15 AM EDT from Keesler Base.

Recon Discussion thread:

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=112816
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#595 Postby Bocadude85 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:49 am

Aric Dunn wrote:IT maybe trying to intensify. looks like its doing a cyclonic loop and being pulled toward that developing convection.



I was just about to point that out.. looks like she has almost come to a stop.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#596 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sat May 26, 2012 10:49 am

A convective band is starting to form on the SE side of the circulation although the cloud tops are relatively warm:

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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#597 Postby FutureEM » Sat May 26, 2012 10:51 am

wxman57 wrote:Savannah should get a good bit of rain out of Beryl. It'll stall south of there and wait to be picked up by an approaching trof. Plenty of time for well-needed rainfall across the southeast. As for what this means for the season - not much. Neither Alberto nor Beryl was formed from tropical waves. Mostly leftover frontal boundaries. Once these are out of the picture in a few weeks such development will cease and we'll see how the tropics look after then. I still think a sub-10 season is possible.


Why will these type of storms stop in a few weeks, can't frontal storms happen year round? I mean last year Bret, Cindy, Franklin, Rina and the storm discovered in post season analysis all had similar origins, right? I am young so I could be wrong, but I really thought that these could happen all year.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#598 Postby bg1 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:52 am

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wxman57 wrote:Savannah should get a good bit of rain out of Beryl. It'll stall south of there and wait to be picked up by an approaching trof. Plenty of time for well-needed rainfall across the southeast. As for what this means for the season - not much. Neither Alberto nor Beryl was formed from tropical waves. Mostly leftover frontal boundaries. Once these are out of the picture in a few weeks such development will cease and we'll see how the tropics look after then. I still think a sub-10 season is possible.

Due to what?


Possibly a weak El Nino and higher pressures in the basin. Maybe other factors I can't think of right now.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#599 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat May 26, 2012 10:53 am

FutureEM wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Savannah should get a good bit of rain out of Beryl. It'll stall south of there and wait to be picked up by an approaching trof. Plenty of time for well-needed rainfall across the southeast. As for what this means for the season - not much. Neither Alberto nor Beryl was formed from tropical waves. Mostly leftover frontal boundaries. Once these are out of the picture in a few weeks such development will cease and we'll see how the tropics look after then. I still think a sub-10 season is possible.


Why will these type of storms stop in a few weeks, can't frontal storms happen year round? I mean last year Bret, Cindy, Franklin, Rina and the storm discovered in post season analysis all have similar origins? I am young so I could be wrong, but I really thought that these could happen all year.

Strong cold fronts are hard to come by during the peak of hurricane season. Thus, tropical cyclones that originate from fronts are most likely early in the season (June/July) and late in the season (October/November).

Rina originated from a tropical wave, by the way.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Subtropical Storm

#600 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 26, 2012 10:54 am

Here are the different heights.Aric,how do you see her stacking up?


850 mb heights are in light blue

700 mb heights are in light green

500 mb heights are in light brown

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