Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands (Is invest 99L)

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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#21 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:15 pm

From 8 PM discussion:

THE MONSOON TROUGH EXTENDS ACROSS W AFRICA TO THE COAST OF
GUINEA BISSAU AT 12N16W CONTINUING ACROSS ATLC WATERS THROUGH A
1009 MB SURFACE LOW AT 9N32W TO 8N41W. SCATTERED
MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 8N-12N BETWEEN
16W-24W. SIMILAR ACTIVITY IS NEAR THE SURFACE LOW FROM 7N-10N
BETWEEN 31W-41W.
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#22 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:29 pm

Despite the fact that the 18Z GFS itself shows Tropical Storm Ernesto headed into the central Caribbean, it's ensemble mean shows it headed towards the NE Caribbean Islands and eventually the Southeast USA coast. This is more in line with the CMC model.
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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#23 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:55 pm

The big picture. The big question is which pouch will cause the lid to go away soon.

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#24 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:02 pm

IMO, the reason why models are picking up on development with P10L is because it stays in a low latitude near 10N all across the Atlantic, away from the SAL and near 28C SSTs. Now the question is if can detach away from the ITCZ, from the past events they seem to take a bit longer for development than what the models show.

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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#25 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:19 pm

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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#26 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:49 pm

If the UKMET model is right,shear may not be a big problem in the MDR area for whatever 10L turns into.

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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#27 Postby ROCK » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:20 pm

IMO, this is our boy we need to watch as it will be moving over some of the hottest ssts in the ALT....what I will find interesting is how it does at such a low lat and of the course the graveyard the E carib has been in the past. Ie how does SA influence it.

got plenty of potential out there...you can see on this map what I am talking about concerning MDR sst's. The GOM is mighty toasty as well.....

http://wxmaps.org/pix/hurpot.html#ATL
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#28 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:28 pm

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The only negative factor against development of this wave is dry air. Given that it has a large moisture envelope visible on water vapor imagery, we should see this become at least a weak tropical storm if it takes the southern route into the Caribbean and a potential hurricane if it takes the more northern route (more likely IMO) towards the NE Caribbean islands.
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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#29 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:38 pm

Another perspective image, this one from RAMDIS. It may not look hot for development now,but it has a good spin to the clouds if you look at loop I posted 4 posts above.

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#30 Postby Rgv20 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:03 pm

0zGFS continues to show development of this wave....Thru Thursday evening is at 50W.

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#31 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:26 pm

From its progression today I would not be surprised to see this possibly develop by late Tuesday into wed.

Also 00z nogaps a little more aggressive with it .
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap_cgi/cg ... t=Tropical
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#32 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:15 am

Looking at those models, if anything develops, I think it is a straight shooter to Central America or the Yucatan.
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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands

#33 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:52 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT MON JUL 30 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A TROPICAL WAVE ACCOMPANIED BY A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS
LOCATED ABOUT 750 MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS. THIS
DISTURBANCE IS SHOWING SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION...AND ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS ARE CONDUCIVE FOR SOME GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR OVER
THE NEXT FEW DAYS. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
WESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands-20%

#34 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:55 am

so this wave beat other one by leedward to get yellow circle
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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands-20%

#35 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:59 am

floridasun78 wrote:so this wave beat other one by leedward to get yellow circle



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The reasoning is that the models develop this and it has a clear cut circulation unlike Pouch7 which has little to no circulation or model support to speak of
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Re: Pouch P10L SW of Cape Verde islands-20%

#36 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:00 am

Is invest 99L so thread is locked. Go to the 99L thread to continue the discussions about this system.

viewtopic.php?f=59&t=113175&hilit=&p=2241445#p2241445
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