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#961 Postby JPmia » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:58 pm

deltadog03 wrote:Looks like the EURO has its eyes on the FL panhandle this run. or darn near close.


yeah MS/AL/Pensacola area looks to me.. where's Ivanhater?
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#962 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:58 pm

meriland23 wrote:question is, how reliable is euro this far out based on past hurricanes.. vs the GFS.. this is the first time I have seen a route like this for td 9, and the emmense strength


all models drop in accuracy... what to take from this run is still the same as before. the weakness will be there. the only reason the euro is farther west is because it is faster than the rest of models does not slow down soon to be issac and this gets farther west before the weakness develops. the models are actually in good agreement on the weakness just disagree in the speed of the system.

240 hours a 956 mb hurricane.
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#963 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:58 pm

This run is super bad news for the FL panhandle....I don't know if this is ultimately right, but you have think, *for now* GFS over the spine of FL and EURO is near mobile......pretty good consensus for 8-10 days away.
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#964 Postby uhvjaguars22 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:58 pm

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Texas is out of this one central to eastern gulf likely in my opinion
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#965 Postby Stormlover2012 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Lol it's 7 days nobody knows where this is going
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#966 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Wow. That's NGOM no doubt. The question is how much can the models shift west? Also don't call people people I disagree with here on the forum. That's a terrible thing to say.
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#967 Postby LaBreeze » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:00 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Image
961 MB :double:

961 MB would be comparable to what category hurricane?
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#968 Postby Stormlover2012 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:01 pm

I mean people buy into models 7 days out and think euro is wrong bec it shift west bec it's not where the gfs is, I mean everyone needs to be realistic here, it's going to keep changing and changing
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#969 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:02 pm

10 days to make it to the Central Gulf? Things that make you go Humm....Euro will need some consistancy before I could buy that scenario..
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#970 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:02 pm

Seems the Euro doesn't see TD9 as a storm for first 120 hours, so that makes sense a shallow system would go west. Maybe a trend setter, but most of the models see TD9 deepening and responding to the trough. Gonna be interesting.
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#971 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:02 pm

LaBreeze wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:[img][/img]
961 MB :double:

961 MB would be comparable to what category hurricane?

Could be a Cat 2-3. Really depends on the size of the hurricane though.
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#972 Postby meriland23 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:03 pm

LaBreeze wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:Image
961 MB :double:

961 MB would be comparable to what category hurricane?

cat 3
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#973 Postby LaBreeze » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:03 pm

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:10 days to make it to the Central Gulf? Things that make you go Humm....Euro will need some consistancy before I could buy that scenario..

Agreed
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#974 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:03 pm

uhvjaguars22 wrote:Texas is out of this one central to eastern gulf likely in my opinion


How do you know Texas is out of this one...I have heard that many times before and in the end the storm went to Texas
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#975 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:05 pm

wxwatcher1999 wrote:
uhvjaguars22 wrote:Texas is out of this one central to eastern gulf likely in my opinion


How do you know Texas is out of this one...I have heard that many times before and in the end the storm went to Texas

I think that Shortwave trough will make it really difficult for it to make it to Texas. But who knows?

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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#976 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:05 pm

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#977 Postby uhvjaguars22 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:06 pm

no one knows when the models start trending to mexico then we will start worrying lol although a week ago the gfs showed a hurricane hitting texas end of august
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#978 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:07 pm

Sure don't like that run here in Pensacola. Of course things can and most often times do change from run to run of each model. Our friends in the islands take care...will know much much more in the coming days as to where folks in the mainland need to take heed.
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#979 Postby Weatherboy1 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:07 pm

FWIW, HPC day 6-7 positions for TD9 are just off the SW coast of FL heading generally NW to NNW. A more gradual turn in general being forecasted, but as several people have noted (myself included!) we are still 6-ish days out on this thing. Could be an Ivan, could be a Cleo, or could be something else entirely! Really too early to say!

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/medr/nav_c ... fcolor=ter
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Re: ATL: NINE - Models

#980 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:08 pm

I so love the EURO....just when you think all is set in stone it throws out a wrench.....did this with IKE and now with TD9.....if it starts showing this next run then really need to take notice....
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