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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3121 Postby Portastorm » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:42 am

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#3122 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:44 am

looking much better with each frame. convection now building over the center and a curved band wrapping around.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3123 Postby tgenius » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:45 am

Realistically how much rain can we expect in Southern Dade from Isaac, or is it basically going to rain out the weekend totally?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3124 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:53 am

Yes, I agree - the satellite presentation is much better than yesterday at this time - we'll see where it goes ("Hello, Sebring")...

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P.S. Sebring is my evacution destination (per Katrina, Wilma, etc.)...

P.P.S. I wouldn't be concerned about rainfall tomorrow - Sunday might be another issue, however...
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3125 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:54 am

tgenius wrote:Realistically how much rain can we expect in Southern Dade from Isaac, or is it basically going to rain out the weekend totally?


Depends on the track, which is uncertain. Using the current NHC forecast track, you'd be on the outer edge of the squalls, meaning a few inches. If Isaac actually tracked near south Florida then you could see 5-10 inches.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3126 Postby tshizzle » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:57 am

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huirloop.html

looks real good there IMO - has those "streaks" of clouds puffing out on the left side kinda like spiky hair/saw. definitely the healthiest its looked on visible
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#3127 Postby uhvjaguars22 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:58 am

The convection is waning again you agree wxman57 the cold cloud tops look thin ?
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#3128 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:01 am

there is no way there are multiple vorts by the time recon gets there. I can see clear low level CU lines that fit perfectly to where the center is right under that small ball of convection
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3129 Postby StarmanHDB » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:03 am

tshizzle wrote:
looks real good there IMO - has those "streaks" of clouds puffing out on the left side kinda like spiky hair/saw. definitely the healthiest its looked on visible


Outflow....it's called outflow and it means the storm is doing exactly what nature needs it to do--expel warm air while inflow replaces it with cool air. Isn't nature awesome? 8-)
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#3130 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:03 am

Aric Dunn wrote:there is no way there are multiple vorts by the time recon gets there. I can see clear low level CU lines that fit perfectly to where the center is right under that small ball of convection


I totally agree. Note also the lower cloud deck has thickened on the northern side finally. Should see some nice convection there shortly.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3131 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:05 am

StarmanHDB wrote:
tshizzle wrote:
looks real good there IMO - has those "streaks" of clouds puffing out on the left side kinda like spiky hair/saw. definitely the healthiest its looked on visible


Outflow....it's called outflow and it means the storm is doing exactly what nature needs it to do--expel warm air while inflow replaces it with cool air. Isn't nature awesome? 8-)


Except it expels cold air at the top and the inflow is very warm humid air from the sea surface.
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#3132 Postby climaguy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:05 am

uhvjaguars22 wrote:The convection is waning again you agree wxman57 the cold cloud tops look thin ?


Some waning in the SE quad but don't let the change in sun angle on the vis fool you. The profiles of the overshooting tops look more dramatic when the sun angle is lower.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3133 Postby StarmanHDB » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:11 am

ozonepete wrote:
StarmanHDB wrote:
tshizzle wrote:
looks real good there IMO - has those "streaks" of clouds puffing out on the left side kinda like spiky hair/saw. definitely the healthiest its looked on visible


Outflow....it's called outflow and it means the storm is doing exactly what nature needs it to do--expel warm air while inflow replaces it with cool air. Isn't nature awesome? 8-)


Except it expels cold air at the top and the inflow is very warm humid air from the sea surface.


My bad! Either way, it's awesome how the planet regulates itself. Too bad we're in the way
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3134 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:11 am

15 frame live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=15

My amateur observation is that LLC looks to be just tucked under and distinct. Need more recon!
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#3135 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:11 am

Aric Dunn wrote:there is no way there are multiple vorts by the time recon gets there. I can see clear low level CU lines that fit perfectly to where the center is right under that small ball of convection


I agree. Looks like its near 16.5 / 70.5 and on track to move just off the SW tip of Haiti...or at about a 295.

Still on track for my Destin, FL landfall (or 60 miles either side)...so I am obviously fine with the NHC track now.
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#3136 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:13 am

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Aric Dunn wrote:there is no way there are multiple vorts by the time recon gets there. I can see clear low level CU lines that fit perfectly to where the center is right under that small ball of convection


I agree. Looks like its near 16.5 / 70.5 and on track to move just off the SW tip of Haiti...or at about a 295.

Still on track for my Destin, FL landfall (or 60 miles either side)...so I am obviously fine with the NHC track now.


yeah if the ridging is any weaker ( per the 12z gfs ) we may be looking at something very similar to it. but when all said and done destin is as good as any for final ladfall.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3137 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:16 am

tolakram wrote:15 frame live loop: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=15

My amateur observation is that LLC looks to be just tucked under and distinct. Need more recon!


to my untrained eye those last few frames looks like it is moving more west
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3138 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:16 am

StarmanHDB wrote:
My bad! Either way, it's awesome how the planet regulates itself. Too bad we're in the way
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We impact the regulation of the planet on a very small scale...so much so that the planet as a whole barely notices we are here. But this is a discussion for another forum.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3139 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:18 am

roughly about right there.

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#3140 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:20 am

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Aric Dunn wrote:there is no way there are multiple vorts by the time recon gets there. I can see clear low level CU lines that fit perfectly to where the center is right under that small ball of convection


I agree. Looks like its near 16.5 / 70.5 and on track to move just off the SW tip of Haiti...or at about a 295.

Still on track for my Destin, FL landfall (or 60 miles either side)...so I am obviously fine with the NHC track now.


Had to check to see where Destin is - it's right where I'm thinking, Pensacola to Panama City.
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