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#3181 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:49 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:
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Weatherboy1 wrote:This run is definitely concerning and should be noted. Doesn't it have additiona NOAA sampling data in it? Or is that the middle of the night cycle? Hmm...


To answer your question there have been flights in and out of the storm most of the morning and the G-IV is going up every 6 hours now taking readings...and the models are now ingesting balloon data from NWS WFOs in FL, GA, AL, MS, and PR. There is now new synoptic data being fed into the models about every 12 hours.... usually the 0z and 12z runs to make the morning and evening advisories


That's what I was wondering about -- the G-IV data. I was wondering if it is being reflected in the 12z runs, including the GFS run we just got, or only once a day (meaning the 0z runs). If the latest data is reflected in this GFS run, then I think it should have more validity. It wouldn't take much of a shift to the east for SE FL to get really nasty weather vs. just some wind and rain. So I'm watching closely. The base of the trough/low in the Eastern Gulf stretches all the way down to about 23N, and that lingering frontal boundary/low around GA/SC seems to me to be enough to create a real weakness for Isaac to shoot into.


the g-iv has not been taking into the 12z data but yesterdays has as well as slew of weather balloons and recon data. there is plenty for the models to use. todays g-iv data will only give an updated look at the the environment just to the north of the system to provide more data for the models to help with the next 24 to 36hrs not to really effect 5 days out. each day there is a gulfstream I believe so dont get too caught up with that there is plenty of data for the models to give a good run. :)
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#3182 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:50 am

12Z HWRF Initialized

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12z HWRF +24

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#3183 Postby meriland23 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:50 am

when are euro models up?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3184 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:54 am

West shift from the UKMET...looks to be heading toward the Mississippi coast

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#3185 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:57 am

hwrf is to the right of the 6z track
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3186 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:58 am

Ivanhater wrote:West shift from the UKMET...looks to be heading toward the Mississippi coast


Where is the initial CONUS landfall with that run
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3187 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:59 am

Jevo wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:West shift from the UKMET...looks to be heading toward the Mississippi coast


Where is the initial CONUS landfall with that run

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not only that the 00z looked like it was heading that way they did a sharp n the ne turn.
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#3188 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:00 pm

hwrf at 42 hours hurricane heading for upper keys north of 6 track.
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#3189 Postby bucman1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:02 pm

Aric,

Any model images ?
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#3190 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:02 pm

12Z HWRF +48 (The little model that could)

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#3191 Postby meriland23 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:02 pm

do you guys have links to both models? I wanna see
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3192 Postby Portastorm » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:02 pm

meriland23 wrote:ukmet west this round... others east.. yeah.. try and make sence of that..
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#3193 Postby bucman1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:03 pm

Thank you Jevo!!!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3194 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:03 pm

Ivanhater wrote:West shift from the UKMET...looks to be heading toward the Mississippi coast

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I think thats yesterday's run. :)
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3195 Postby Portastorm » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:03 pm

alch97 wrote:Let me get this right. Now the models are bringing it back east? :double:
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#3196 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:05 pm

12z HWRF +54 Middle and upper Keys to Extreme SW FL

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12Z HWRF +60

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#3197 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:13 pm

very close to the gfs.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#3198 Postby SouthFLTropics » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:18 pm

Based on the new GFS and HWRF and current recon and satellite fixes it looks like Isaac may do exactly what I have feared all along and that is shoot the gap through the Windward Passage. If this thing comes off of the NE Cuban coast as shown and strengthens faster than expected...Watch out. We may not be done with these East shifts in the models yet either...Just a thought.

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#3199 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:18 pm

12Z HWRF +72

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#3200 Postby bucman1 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:24 pm

SFLCane, That advisory might have been before the GFS and other models at 12Z came out!
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