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#3781 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:15 am

meriland23 wrote:in case you all are wondering, center is alread past haiti and back in water and didn't effect the strength much at all.
Yeah, I agree. I think the center is moving more N/NW at the moment. This will have more significant impacts on the Bahamas and of course extreme South Florida impacting them later today and tonight.
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#3782 Postby Vortex » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:16 am

Also, seems just E of the forecasr point at this time...If this is the case it will have very little land interaction with Cuba and be back over the water today......Still continues NW/NNW
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#3783 Postby stephen23 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:17 am

meriland23 wrote:in case you all are wondering, center is alread past haiti and back in water and didn't effect the strength much at all.
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I'm glad you said that. I thought I didn't know what I was looking at. The recon position is showing well west of that. If the center is truly where we are seeing it, it appears it is east of the forcast point. Will this change interaction with Cuba? Like maybe the difference between 3 or 4 hours over Cuba to if it follows path maybe 30 min over cuba?
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#3784 Postby meriland23 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:18 am

question is whether it wants to go through the winward passage or due north toward port-de-paix
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3785 Postby jinftl » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:19 am

Take a moment to pray for the folks in Haiti - there are 400,000 people living in tents still from the earthquake in 2010 in and around Port au Prince. The band to the south of Haiti looks very menacing.
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#3786 Postby meriland23 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:21 am

looking at wundergrounds sat image.. looks liek the above image is right ^ unless the center is marked wrong, Reed Timmer marked that.
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#3787 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:24 am

Vortex wrote:Also, seems just E of the forecasr point at this time...If this is the case it will have very little land interaction with Cuba and be back over the water today......Still continues NW/NNW
JB is getting his perfect scenario for his 2/3 prediction...however just because it misses land doesn't mean he verifies but it sure does give him a much bigger chance of working out

I believe NHC extends those hurricane watches northward up the east coast and also increases their intensity forecast...we will know shortly if i verify
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3788 Postby jinftl » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:25 am

NOAA graphic just released at 4am EDT shows bullseye of heaviest rain in Upper Keys and mainland south florida....

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#3789 Postby MJS1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:26 am

meriland23 wrote:looking at wundergrounds sat image.. looks liek the above image is right ^ unless the center is marked wrong, Reed Timmer marked that.


The Wunderground page says Isaac has 71 mph winds...hey,it's GREAT to be back!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3790 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:26 am

jinftl wrote:Take a moment to pray for the folks in Haiti - there are 400,000 people living in tents still from the earthquake in 2010 in and around Port au Prince. The band to the south of Haiti looks very menacing.


You are absolutely right. My heart and prayers go out to all of the people who are being affected in Haiti currently. The flooding rains is the huge worry as Isaac passes to their north and northwest today, they are going to get the southwest feederbands to rotate through. Just a terrible situation there.
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#3791 Postby meriland23 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:28 am

71? I see 70 but not 71, and that was for the 2 am advis
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3792 Postby MJS1 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:30 am

I live in NC,just over the NC/SC border and the ambient temperature right now is 10 degrees cooler than average...is this anomaly part of what's pulling Isaac poleward in the short term?
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#3793 Postby Vortex » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:32 am

Folks, Issac is on the eastern side of the guidance at this time..If this trend continues a much stronger storm is quite possible as it approaches the keys/sfl late sunday night(little land interaction).....These trends must be followed very closely from this point on.
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#3794 Postby meriland23 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:36 am

Vortex wrote:Folks, Issac is on the eastern side of the guidance at this time..If this trend continues a much stronger storm is quite possible as it approaches the keys/sfl late sunday night(little land interaction).....These trends must be followed very closely from this point on.

scarey, but would the mean more likely a SEFL hit vs keys? then crossing over into the gulf? or inbetween fl/cuba through the keys still?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3795 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:36 am

MJS1 wrote:I live in NC,just over the NC/SC border and the ambient temperature right now is 10 degrees cooler than average...is this anomaly part of what's pulling Isaac poleward in the short term?



It is that anomalous East Coast trough extending rather deep down currently into the Gulf of Mexico which is currently steering Isaac to the N-NW. I have been stating for the past couple of dyas that this trough may pull Isaac more north a bit longer than the models have shown. Today will be very interesting to see what the models will do. I would not be shocked to see them shift a bit more east later today.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3796 Postby Canelaw99 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:40 am

jinftl wrote:NOAA graphic just released at 4am EDT shows bullseye of heaviest rain in Upper Keys and mainland south florida....

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What I find interesting here is the little x off the SE FL coast, where the 8.78 is. Wonder if that is Where they think storm might be, or what? Either way we're in for a lot of rain down here, especially southern Dade. This is after enormous amounts in recent months.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3797 Postby jinftl » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:47 am

Hurricane warnings for Keys and SW FL and Watch now for Miami-Dade county!

TROPICAL STORM ISAAC FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 17
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
0900 UTC SAT AUG 25 2012

CHANGES IN WATCHES AND WARNINGS WITH THIS ADVISORY...

A HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS INCLUDING
THE DRY TORTUGAS...THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM BONITA BEACH
SOUTHWARD...AND FLORIDA BAY.

A HURRICANE WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM
GOLDEN BEACH SOUTHWARD.

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WATCH FOR
ANDROS ISLAND.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3798 Postby Vortex » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:49 am

jinftl wrote:Hurricane warnings for Keys and SW FL and Watch now for Miami-Dade county!

TROPICAL STORM ISAAC FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 17
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
0900 UTC SAT AUG 25 2012

CHANGES IN WATCHES AND WARNINGS WITH THIS ADVISORY...

A HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS INCLUDING
THE DRY TORTUGAS...THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM BONITA BEACH
SOUTHWARD...AND FLORIDA BAY.

A HURRICANE WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM
GOLDEN BEACH SOUTHWARD.

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WATCH FOR
ANDROS ISLAND.



Smart move-
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3799 Postby meriland23 » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:50 am

Vortex wrote:
jinftl wrote:Hurricane warnings for Keys and SW FL and Watch now for Miami-Dade county!

TROPICAL STORM ISAAC FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 17
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092012
0900 UTC SAT AUG 25 2012

CHANGES IN WATCHES AND WARNINGS WITH THIS ADVISORY...

A HURRICANE WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA KEYS INCLUDING
THE DRY TORTUGAS...THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM BONITA BEACH
SOUTHWARD...AND FLORIDA BAY.

A HURRICANE WATCH HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM
GOLDEN BEACH SOUTHWARD.

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS ISSUED A HURRICANE WATCH FOR
ANDROS ISLAND.



Smart move-

with all this fuss and muss over isaac for over a week, I could see a ridonkulous amount of people piling up traffic in the miami area.. it is about time they warn these people
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#3800 Postby Vortex » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:51 am

Right now Iaac contines to be on the eastern envelope of the models with a nw/nnw trajectory....He will be back over water later today and it looks less likely there will not be much of an issue with land thereafter....could easily be a 2 when hearing keys/sfl sunday night
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