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#6481 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:03 pm

I will say, looking at the overall MASS/CDO its still moving in a Northerly fashion....

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/2km.php?l ... mimages=24
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#6482 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:04 pm

I'm beginning to think the angle of attack is going to be a bigger issue that wind speed, as it could push more water into the river and channels leading to NO.

But since no one wants to address the question on the surge potential on the levees .....
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6483 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:04 pm

ATTENTION


Get back on track with the discussion of Isaac and only Isaac. This is an overall warning.
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#6484 Postby windnrain » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:05 pm

deltadog03 wrote:I will say, looking at the overall MASS/CDO its still moving in a Northerly fashion....

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/2km.php?l ... mimages=24


Is it becoming a trend?

Or do you think it'll keep stairstepping?
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#6485 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:05 pm

And for those rooting for intensification .... we really don't want that.
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#6486 Postby gboudx » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:06 pm

deltadog03 wrote:I will say, looking at the overall MASS/CDO its still moving in a Northerly fashion....

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/2km.php?l ... mimages=24


I've noticed that for at least a couple hours. How long would that need to persist before it's considered a change in track, versus the normal stair-stepping you see around ridges?
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#6487 Postby rainstorm » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:07 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:I'm beginning to think the angle of attack is going to be a bigger issue that wind speed, as it could push more water into the river and channels leading to NO.

But since no one wants to address the question on the surge potential on the levees .....



if it comes in at 75 mph i just dont think it will be a big deal. 110 would have been a different story.
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#6488 Postby Lane » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:08 pm

monicaei wrote:And profoundly offensive... How quickly people forget what K really was.

Doesn't take a meteorology degree to figure out this isn't gonna kill a couple thousand people, cripple a major metropolitan area and profoundly change the landscape of an entire state.

Never forget, huh?


Bold statement considering this storm is still well offshore. Not picking at you, same was said 4/26/11 in my area. The next day we had a huge tornado outbreak killing hundreds, wiping two cities off the map, Pleasant grove and phil cambell.

Sorry for going off topic.
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#6489 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:08 pm

GFDL and HWRF both shifted East by a good bit. Looks like the threat to my area is decreasing but at least it seems like most have prepared like they should in case things change.
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#6490 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:08 pm

windnrain wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:I will say, looking at the overall MASS/CDO its still moving in a Northerly fashion....

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/2km.php?l ... mimages=24


Is it becoming a trend?

Or do you think it'll keep stairstepping?


Its actually been moving in a general NNW motion for the last 5 hours. maybe some wobbles here in there NW to WNW, but overall the CDO has been generally expanding/moving northward.
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#6491 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:09 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:GFDL and HWRF both shifted East by a good bit. Looks like the threat to my area is decreasing but at least it seems like most have prepared like they should in case things change.


I just saw the hwrf, where did the GFDL go?
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#6492 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:10 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:GFDL and HWRF both shifted East by a good bit. Looks like the threat to my area is decreasing but at least it seems like most have prepared like they should in case things change.


I just saw the hwrf, where did the GFDL go?


Pretty much directly over the NHC track.

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal/xweb%20weather/hurricane%20model%20plots
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#6493 Postby Buckeye05 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:11 pm

Lane wrote:
monicaei wrote:And profoundly offensive... How quickly people forget what K really was.

Doesn't take a meteorology degree to figure out this isn't gonna kill a couple thousand people, cripple a major metropolitan area and profoundly change the landscape of an entire state.

Never forget, huh?


Bold statement considering this storm is still well offshore. Not picking at you, same was said 4/26/11 in my area. The next day we had a huge tornado outbreak killing hundreds, wiping two cities off the map, Pleasant grove and phil cambell.

Sorry for going off topic.

27th actually, and a major tornado outbreak was predicted days ahead of that event.
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#6494 Postby bella_may » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:12 pm

deltadog03 wrote:I will say, looking at the overall MASS/CDO its still moving in a Northerly fashion....

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/2km.php?l ... mimages=24

Are my eyes playing tricks on me or is that a eye forming?
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#6495 Postby Kory » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:13 pm

Is it because the storms are expanding northward, that it is giving it a more northerly look? Maybe it is still on a NW track? The overall movement stated by the NHC is NW. I'm just trying to see what they're seeing.
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#6496 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:13 pm

It's running out of real estate quick and as one of the mets on here mentioned, it's going to start training in some of the dry air that the outflow is picking up by already being on land...So with that said, in my own personal opinion, it needs to intensify tonight if it plans on making it to a hurricane at all.....



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#6497 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:14 pm

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WeatherGuesser wrote:I'm beginning to think the angle of attack is going to be a bigger issue that wind speed, as it could push more water into the river and channels leading to NO.

But since no one wants to address the question on the surge potential on the levees .....



if it comes in at 75 mph i just dont think it will be a big deal. 110 would have been a different story.



Again, it's NOT the wind speed. It's the size of the wind field, the amount of water displaced and the direction in which the displaced water is pushed.
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#6498 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:14 pm

This is from Dr. Neil Frank, former NHC director and someone that I RESPECT a ton. Food for thought....


Dr. Neil Frank: Isaac could continue moving west

http://www.khou.com/community/WATCH-Dr- ... 20065.html
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#6499 Postby Buckeye05 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:14 pm

WOW! Check out the latest visible scan. NICE eye!
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#6500 Postby timNms » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:15 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
windnrain wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:I will say, looking at the overall MASS/CDO its still moving in a Northerly fashion....

http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/2km.php?l ... mimages=24


Is it becoming a trend?

Or do you think it'll keep stairstepping?


Its actually been moving in a general NNW motion for the last 5 hours. maybe some wobbles here in there NW to WNW, but overall the CDO has been generally expanding/moving northward.


I was wondering if my eyes were really seeing that NNW motion or if I was just imagining things. If this motion continues, it appears that the storm will be moving along the eastern side of NHC's cone, which would put Mobile back into play, correct?
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