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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7261 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 am

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Why is there such debate on speed and direction with Isaac. Nhc and recon says nw @10 . A lot of members on here saying west drift or very slow movement west.


We are going by radar and satellite representation. Also we are talking about future movement, because many different models are saying different things. The difference in speed and direction will have a direct effect on what will happen and where.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7262 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:36 am

ROCK wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Why is there such debate on speed and direction with Isaac. Nhc and recon says nw @10 . A lot of members on here saying west drift or very slow movement west.


wheres the debate? are you trying to start one?


Guess I should have worded it differently. I to have been thinking all morning that it doesn't look to be moving nw at that speed but every advisory that comes out they say otherwise. How about the differences of opinion. Is that better?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7263 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 am

I think what we are seeing on the Radar is the dry air and not the center it self about to hit Venice. I think the center is actually at the bottom of that giant dry air pocket.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7264 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:37 am

Big 1 hour (60 frame) visible loop: http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/1min/inde ... eight=1500
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7265 Postby LSU2001 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:38 am

Mike I would guess that the NHC is kinda smoothing out the track. Notice they usually it's moving generally NW. Probably jogging a bit west right now
Wind is really starting to pick up down here now. Just got a gust. About 40 mph

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7266 Postby jabman98 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:39 am

Blinhart wrote:well TWC just stated they are starting to believe this will make landfall West of New Orleans, around Morgan City, with landfall for not another 14 hours, so if this continues, I suspect landfall in about 18 hours West of Intracoastal City.

Family member has to go to Morgan City for work in a few weeks. I wonder how that's going to work out.

Just tuning in to the now-Hurricane Isaac. What's this about it maybe meandering along the coast and heading west-ish? When did people start seeing that might happen?
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#7267 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:39 am

I do not think it will make cat 2 and will come ashore tonight. Unless it stalls.
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#7268 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:40 am

Might get some wobble before landfall
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7269 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:42 am

Looks like a strong, large vortical hot-tower firing on the west side of the LLC.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7270 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:47 am

GCANE wrote:Looks like a strong, large vortical hot-tower firing on the west side of the LLC.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
This is still one very, very very ragged storm. Not that it's affects aren't or won't be significant in terms of flooding, and potential wind damage, but Isaac has not, does not and likely will not have his act together with regards to internal structure. He is rather sloppy to say the least.

Disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about.
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#7271 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:47 am

It's quite possible that in some of the deepest convection that some of the flight level winds get transported down to the surface at least in gusts. It all hinges on how intense the convection becomes!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7272 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:50 am

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#7273 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:51 am

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The next center position could be telling. I think it is possible that Isaac might be changing course more northerly. There have been some eastward jogs.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7274 Postby mutley » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:51 am

Blinhart wrote:I think what we are seeing on the Radar is the dry air and not the center it self about to hit Venice. I think the center is actually at the bottom of that giant dry air pocket.


That's what I see too. Also seems to be undergoing a significant wobble west. I hope it's a wobble.
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#7275 Postby SoupBone » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:53 am

mutley wrote:
Blinhart wrote:I think what we are seeing on the Radar is the dry air and not the center it self about to hit Venice. I think the center is actually at the bottom of that giant dry air pocket.


That's what I see too. Also seems to be undergoing a significant wobble west. I hope it's a wobble.
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The next center position could be telling. I think it is possible that Isaac might be changing course more northerly. There have been some eastward jogs.


It's definitely wobble watching time.
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#7276 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:53 am

Definitely jogging west IMO. This is not good as it will give it quite a bit more time over water.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7277 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:53 am

mutley wrote:
Blinhart wrote:I think what we are seeing on the Radar is the dry air and not the center it self about to hit Venice. I think the center is actually at the bottom of that giant dry air pocket.


That's what I see too. Also seems to be undergoing a significant wobble west. I hope it's a wobble.


If you look at the high speed visible loops it appears the center is rotating around, or wobbling around, the convection. Refer to recon fixes for direction.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#7278 Postby Frank P » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:54 am

thanks Mark... you really can't tell from sat or rad with Isaac, best to go with recon...
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#7279 Postby BigB0882 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:57 am

I know this is probably way premature and probably wrong but it LOOKS like it may have finally found a way to keep the dry air out. I am looking at the image tolakram posted at 11:35 AM I see what may be some dry air slots to the West but it looks like it should be able to sling that out and away instead of sucking it into the center like it has been doing its whole life.
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#7280 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:00 pm

seen that there are tornado warnings posted outsid of New Orleans



any guess on time of landfall?
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