What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

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#21 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:37 pm

senorpepr wrote:What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

None.

Honestly, I feel we over-retire names today. Sure, the Katrinas and Andrews... whatever. But frankly, naming storms and retiring them seems a bit excessive here lately.



Always makes me wonder, since Mexico has such a reputation for not requesting storms be retired (see Emily, Alex and Karl), why did they help to put us into this conundrum of having no "I" names left to use as replacements, by retiring Isidore? :roll:
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#22 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:10 pm

senorpepr wrote:What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

None.

Honestly, I feel we over-retire names today. Sure, the Katrinas and Andrews... whatever. But frankly, naming storms and retiring them seems a bit excessive here lately.


Have you seen the retried name list in other basins outside of the Atlantic?
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#23 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:20 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
senorpepr wrote:What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

None.

Honestly, I feel we over-retire names today. Sure, the Katrinas and Andrews... whatever. But frankly, naming storms and retiring them seems a bit excessive here lately.



Always makes me wonder, since Mexico has such a reputation for not requesting storms be retired (see Emily, Alex and Karl), why did they help to put us into this conundrum of having no "I" names left to use as replacements, by retiring Isidore? :roll:


Cuba or the US might have retired Isidore. Even if it wasn't retired in 2002, it would have been in 2008 (instead of Ike).
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#24 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:03 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
senorpepr wrote:What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

None.

Honestly, I feel we over-retire names today. Sure, the Katrinas and Andrews... whatever. But frankly, naming storms and retiring them seems a bit excessive here lately.



Always makes me wonder, since Mexico has such a reputation for not requesting storms be retired (see Emily, Alex and Karl), why did they help to put us into this conundrum of having no "I" names left to use as replacements, by retiring Isidore? :roll:


Running out of I names is not a problem. The SWIO re-draws a naming list every year, and they never seem to run ouf of names.
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#25 Postby HurricaneRyan » Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:16 pm

I can think of a few more I names that can be used:

Irving
Ivory
Ichabod
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#26 Postby Cleveland Kent Evans » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:28 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:I can think of a few more I names that can be used:

Irving
Ivory
Ichabod


Ivory might not be a good choice for replacing Isaac (if it gets replaced) because it has now mostly switched gender in the USA. In 2011, for example, there were 147 girls born in the USA named Ivory (plus 8 each "Ivori" and "Ivorie") and only 25 boys named Ivory.

Ichabod is well-known to most Americans because of the character in "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow". However, it is a name which has so rarely been used in real life that it's one of the few names I think might actually not be borne by any living American at all today. :)

Irving and Ira are about the one "I" male names which have had any tradition of regular use in the USA which have not yet been used on either the Atlantic or East Pacific Lists. Israel is a no-no; they already had to backtrack on that when they tried to use it in the Eastern Pacific list.

Other "I" male names given to ten or more boys born in the USA in 2011 include (some variant spellings and obviously Hawaiian names, saved for the CPAC, left out):

Ibrahim
Ibrahima
Ichiro
Icker
Idan
Iden
Idris
Ifeoluwa
Ignatius
Ihsan
Ikechukwu
Ikenna
Iker
Ilan
Ilario
Ilya
Ilyas
Iman
Imanol
Immanuel
Imari
Imran
Inaki
Indiana
Indigo
Indy
Ioannis
Iram
Iran
Irfan
Irie
Irvin
Isa
Isael
Ishaan
Ishaq
Ishmael
Isidro
Islam
Isley
Itai
Italo
Itamar
Ithan
Itzai
Iverson
Izan
Izzy

Most of these are so rare and/or so "ethnic" it's hard to see whoever would suggest replacements names if the USA asks to have Isaac retired using them. Ishmael has a great literary reference in "Moby Dick", but as the Spanish form Ismael has been retired from the EPAC lists it may be too close to that.
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#27 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:43 pm

The more I think about it, the only storms that should be retired are 5,000,000,000+ in damage or kills over 100 people
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Re: What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

#28 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:16 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:The more I think about it, the only storms that should be retired are 5,000,000,000+ in damage or kills over 100 people


Have you seen the retired list in the SPAC/AUS? becuase they retire most storm that just impact land.
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Re: What Storms Should Have Been Retired?

#29 Postby somethingfunny » Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:28 pm

It's probably time to just take the I names away from the EPAC.
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#30 Postby hurricanexyz » Sat May 25, 2013 7:14 pm

think that
Alex
Isaac
And
Gordon 1994
should have been retired
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#31 Postby RainbowAppleJackDash » Sun May 26, 2013 8:45 am

Isaac and Gordon.
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