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#61 Postby Tstormwatcher » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:40 pm

brunota2003 wrote:Portions of NC in the above map should be in the ACTION zone, but aren't?

Spotter reports state surge is 3 feet above normal on Clubfoot Creek and 2 feet on Back Creek, off of Adams Creek, in Craven and Carteret County already. These are off of the Neuse River, which on the map, is the bottom river on the coast that looks like a smiley face...which is in the "alert" area.


I am surprised that we are not in the action zone. With the continous NE wind we are getting, it doesn't surprise me that the Neuse is rising. On the plus note, the rain we have been getting is most welcomed especially at the rate it is falling. We have had .50 in the last 6 hours.
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#62 Postby Jimsot » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:28 pm

So here I am in Central NJ (Flemington). We are on our annual US vacation to see the kids (grownups actually), family and buy stuff you can not get in the Caribbean. We live full time on Anguilla and have been in two storms already Omar and Earl. I will try and give some idea of whats happeing here starting Monday morning if the power stays on. I don't think the people in the condo development we are in are taking this very serious.

Driving around today we saw lots of lawn furniture still out, what are they thinking. Maybe a third of the leaves have come down already and there is enough on the ground to clog drains. The rest will surely come down MON - TUE and really clog things up or fill up gutters with wet heavy gook untill they rip off and go flying. Should be interesting.

We have NO window protection, just fake shutters but I hope we do not get winds that will break them.
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#63 Postby Peach » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:35 pm

I read 450 miles from the center earlier today, which would give a circumference of 900 miles. The 5:00 NHC report had only "540 miles". Does she have TS force winds for 540 miles or 1,080? Perhaps the earrler NHC report was in error. I thought 1,080 would be impossible.
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#64 Postby Jimsot » Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:54 pm

Peach wrote:I read 450 miles from the center earlier today, which would give a circumference of 900 miles. The 5:00 NHC report had only "540 miles". Does she have TS force winds for 540 miles or 1,080? Perhaps the earrler NHC report was in error. I thought 1,080 would be impossible.


Look at the FCT ADV in the NHC updates, they show wind radii for each quadtrant of the storm.
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#65 Postby Peach » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:01 pm

Jimsot wrote:
Peach wrote:I read 450 miles from the center earlier today, which would give a circumference of 900 miles. The 5:00 NHC report had only "540 miles". Does she have TS force winds for 540 miles or 1,080? Perhaps the earrler NHC report was in error. I thought 1,080 would be impossible.


Look at the FCT ADV in the NHC updates, they show wind radii for each quadtrant of the storm.


Thank you, now I have read 650.
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#66 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:11 pm

They don't issue High Wind Watches here, but I would think I would be under one too if they were issued.
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#67 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:11 pm

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brunota2003 wrote:Portions of NC in the above map should be in the ACTION zone, but aren't?

Spotter reports state surge is 3 feet above normal on Clubfoot Creek and 2 feet on Back Creek, off of Adams Creek, in Craven and Carteret County already. These are off of the Neuse River, which on the map, is the bottom river on the coast that looks like a smiley face...which is in the "alert" area.


I am surprised that we are not in the action zone. With the continous NE wind we are getting, it doesn't surprise me that the Neuse is rising. On the plus note, the rain we have been getting is most welcomed especially at the rate it is falling. We have had .50 in the last 6 hours.


I agree you should be in the Action zone as well. Stay safe even down there!
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#68 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:16 pm

Cherry Branch Ferry (near Havelock) reported sustained winds of 48 mph, they have suspended ferry operations.

Another area in that "alert" and not "action" zone, also in Craven County.
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#69 Postby Peach » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:16 pm

Luckily, my father was career Navy, perhaps another reason I am so interested in TSs.* From the NHC, right at 640-650 miles, were she an actual circle. The number of hours of constant winds isn't discussed as frequently as max winds. Only today I have read in media reports of "massive", "one of the largest", etc.

I always wondered, in the late 1960s-early 1970s, as a child, why the ships went OUT to sea as TSs approached, it seemed insane. He explained THAT to me.
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#70 Postby JC380 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:48 pm

So far, it looks as if people down here are taking the storm seriously. I don't know how bad it will get down here, but I'll keep you all updated for as long as possible.
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#71 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:50 pm

Cherry Branch Ferry reporting water levels are 4 feet above normal.
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#72 Postby StormingB81 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:54 pm

In Jacksonville, NC we have had 2.5 inches of rain and this now is the hardest rains we have had today it though has been non stop since about 930-10am this morning
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#73 Postby Tstormwatcher » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:45 pm

We now have had 1.33 inches of rain, Barometer is at 29.56 with winds gusting to 30mph.
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#74 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:43 pm

Question: if winds are gusting to about 60 mph at the surface (median prediction here, most pessimistic is 80 mph based on some models if mixing is very effective), how high would that be at the 10th floor level? at the 24th floor level (top of my building)?
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#75 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:06 am

I don't remember exactly, but I think I remember the NHC said it could be one category higher at 10 stories up? Not sure if the same rule applies for extratropical cyclones.
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#76 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:37 am

brunota2003 wrote:I don't remember exactly, but I think I remember the NHC said it could be one category higher at 10 stories up? Not sure if the same rule applies for extratropical cyclones.


Yikes, that would be gusts to 80 mph or more...
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#77 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:23 am

Overcast and winds to about 15 to 20 mph right now (sustained - steady with few gusts). Not supposed to change much today, but that is over the original forecast which didn't even mention winds. A sign of things to come tomorrow?
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#78 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:37 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Overcast and winds to about 15 to 20 mph right now (sustained - steady with few gusts). Not supposed to change much today, but that is over the original forecast which didn't even mention winds. A sign of things to come tomorrow?

Our forecasts in mid-western Ontario are really downplaying things, only showing around 40 Kph sustained and light rains for the next 48 hours or so. That's certainty not what the 18z GFS from last night advertised, it showed sustained 70-80 knots at the 850 mb level!!!!! :eek: :eek: I don't believe that but even slightly less than that would be my worst disaster that I have ever gone through easy. I can't even imagine the devastation that would bring, power would be out longer than the 1998 Ice Storm which was one of Canada's worst natural disasters.
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#80 Postby artist » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:00 am

listen to the winds from the Harbor cam.
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