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#2201 Postby Weatherguy173 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:27 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:Have we set a pressure record yet? I'm still seeing 951.


it'll probably be lower, but that's just a guess based on model runs from earlier.
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#2202 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:31 pm

Oh, and I was also glad to see that Stewart added this section in his last two advisories, helping minimize some of the confusion about this "not being a hurricane" at landfall. No matter what it's called or who's issuing the advisories there likely WILL be hurricane force winds. Too bad this wasn't included in yesterday's advisories:

IN ADDITION...HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED ALONG PORTIONS OF THE COAST BETWEEN CHINCOTEAGUE VIRGINIA AND CHATHAM MASSACHUSETTS.
THIS INCLUDES THE MIDDLE AND UPPER CHESAPEAKE BAY...DELAWARE BAY...AND THE COASTS OF THE NORTHERN DELMARVA PENINSULA...NEW JERSEY...THE NEW YORK CITY AREA...LONG ISLAND...CONNECTICUT...AND RHODE ISLAND.
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#2203 Postby RL3AO » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:48 pm

Very cool site I thought you guys might like.

http://hint.fm/wind/index.html
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#2204 Postby Weatherguy173 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:50 pm

RL3AO wrote:Very cool site I thought you guys might like.


what site, i think you forgot to post it :(
-thanks for editing your post, or it was delayed
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#2205 Postby RL3AO » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:54 pm

Yeah I did. Got distracted by the TV.

Personally plea from NWS Mount Holly.

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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2206 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:57 pm

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HURRICANE SANDY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 25A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL182012
200 PM EDT SUN OCT 28 2012

...SANDY EXPECTED TO BRING LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE FLOODING TO
THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST...INCLUDING LONG ISLAND SOUND AND NEW YORK
HARBOR...
...WINDS FORECAST TO BE NEAR HURRICANE FORCE AT LANDFALL...
...HEAVY SNOW EXPECTED IN PORTIONS OF THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS...



SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...32.8N 71.9W
ABOUT 270 MI...440 KM SE OF CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA
ABOUT 575 MI...930 KM S OF NEW YORK CITY
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NE OR 50 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...951 MB...28.08 INCHES
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#2207 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:02 pm

RL3AO wrote:Yeah I did. Got distracted by the TV.

Personally plea from NWS Mount Holly.


The folks at NWS Mount Holly are some of my new heroes. They have been doing stellar work this storm. Those powerpoint briefings on their site are a model of what every NWS office should be doing!

KUDOS!!!! You're saving lives! And gotta love the invite to call him up and yell because they ordered an unneeded evacuation! Lovin' it.
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#2208 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:07 pm

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey Transit will implement a gradual system-wide shutdown of all bus, rail, light rail and Access Link service, ahead of the massive storm bearing down on the state.

Gov. Chris Christie announced the plans Sunday afternoon. He says the shutdown will start at 4 p.m. Sunday and continue through 2 a.m. Monday.

The service suspension process requires the relocation and securing of buses, rail equipment and other NJ Transit assets away from flood-prone areas. It also requires complete coordination with state and local officials throughout the process.

Administration officials also say the Atlantic City Rail Line will suspend operations at 4 p.m. Sunday due to the rapidly deteriorating weather conditions and the continued evacuation of Atlantic City.
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#2209 Postby SunnyThoughts » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:10 pm

Looking through weather sites today...saw this. NWS now OFFICIALLY forecasting largest water level ever recorded at the Battery (11.7) for tomorrow night, breaking Hurr Donna 1960 10.1 ft
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#2210 Postby ronjon » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:13 pm

I think Sandy may be starting a strengthening phase as she migrates the gulf stream waters. The center has really tightened up and we're starting to get that "stadium" effect appearance. Lat's see if pressure falls begin and we get below 951 mb where we are now.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/18L/flash-vis-long.html
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#2211 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Nearly 700 miles west of Virginia Beach, I'm getting winds gusting around 30, related to Sandy or not.
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#2212 Postby RL3AO » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:17 pm

WeatherGuesser wrote:Nearly 700 miles west of Virginia Beach, I'm getting winds gusting around 30, related to Sandy or not.


Oh yeah. You're feeling the wind being funneled towards Sandy.
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#2213 Postby storm4u » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:39 pm

I noticed alot of people around here are prepared whatever we get I hope everyone makes it
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#2214 Postby curmy » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:39 pm

Hi Everyone! I've been a long time lurker and decided I would post before we lose power...

I'm about 25 miles inland "as the crow flyes" from Lewes/Rehobeth, Delaware. Currently, we are getting light rain and light wind. We started our preps on Thursday, which basically consisted of taking "everything" out of the shed and attic. The generator started on the first pull, Thank you God! You name it, we got it. Didn't need to go to the store one thing! We are now done and ready.

We are rural and are on well water, so we will be the last to get power back on. We spent all day yesterday filling 50 gallon jugs with water and 5 gallon containers. Solar showers are filled too. I'm doing all my baking today. The pine-apple upside down cake looks devine :lol:
The pantry full of home canned foods are a blessing at a time like this.

I just heard on the local tv that mandatory evacs are underway in Ocean City and the Delaware beaches (kent county). I've also gotten several emails from Verizon advising that connectivity might be an issue during the storm. Duh, Ya' think? So, I went to my inbox and sure enough, I can't send or receive messages....No big deal, but I will miss being online and losing the satellite. The weather radio, battery operated tv, and library will fill the gap.

Thanks to everyone for all you do here. It means alot!

Regards,
Curmy
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#2215 Postby Dave » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:40 pm

NWS Wilmington OH issued a wind advisory for our district including me @ 216 pm edt from noon Monday thru 6 pm Tuesday with gusts up to 45 mph. I'm 500 miles from the coast.

Uh...tolakram...your in this too..it catches N KY also.
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#2216 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:42 pm

Here we go:

...HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 2 PM MONDAY TO 11 AM
EDT TUESDAY...

* LOCATIONS...GENESEE VALLEY...FINGER LAKES...AND EAST OF LAKE
ONTARIO.

* TIMING...MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING.

* WINDS...NORTH TO NORTHEAST WINDS 30 TO 45 MPH...WITH GUSTS OF 55
TO 65 MPH. STRONGEST WINDS WILL GENERALLY BE ALONG THE
IMMEDIATE LAKE SHORE.

* IMPACTS...STRONG WINDS COMBINED WITH A SATURATED GROUND WILL
RESULT IN DOWNED TREES WHICH CAN BLOCK ROADWAYS AND TAKE OUT
POWER LINES. IT IS UNUSUAL TO GET WINDS THIS STRONG FROM A
NORTHERLY DIRECTION. TREES IN THIS AREA ARE ANCHORED AGAINST THE
PREVAILING WEST WIND...SO STRONG WINDS FROM THE NORTH WILL
PRODUCE MORE WIND DAMAGE THAN NORMAL FOR THESE WIND SPEEDS.
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#2217 Postby stephen23 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:43 pm

The tall buildings in new york would be feeling those winds much closer to that 850mb correct?
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#2218 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:45 pm

curmy wrote:Hi Everyone! I've been a long time lurker and decided I would post before we lose power...

I'm about 25 miles inland "as the crow flyes" from Lewes/Rehobeth, Delaware. Currently, we are getting light rain and light wind. We started our preps on Thursday, which basically consisted of taking "everything" out of the shed and attic. The generator started on the first pull, Thank you God! You name it, we got it. Didn't need to go to the store one thing! We are now done and ready.

We are rural and are on well water, so we will be the last to get power back on. We spent all day yesterday filling 50 gallon jugs with water and 5 gallon containers. Solar showers are filled too. I'm doing all my baking today. The pine-apple upside down cake looks devine :lol:
The pantry full of home canned foods are a blessing at a time like this.

I just heard on the local tv that mandatory evacs are underway in Ocean City and the Delaware beaches (kent county). I've also gotten several emails from Verizon advising that connectivity might be an issue during the storm. Duh, Ya' think? So, I went to my inbox and sure enough, I can't send or receive messages....No big deal, but I will miss being online and losing the satellite. The weather radio, battery operated tv, and library will fill the gap.

Thanks to everyone for all you do here. It means alot!

Regards,
Curmy


Welcome to storm2k. Stay safe and dry there and let us know what occurs there when power comes back.
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#2219 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:46 pm

Has anyone else noticed how the CERA storm surge model has gotten significantly worse for NJ / NYC?

Here's the close-up graphic of the NYC metro from yesterday:

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And here's the current CERA forecast:

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Scary is an understatement.
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#2220 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:47 pm

Yes, winds can be as high as one or two categories as you go up. Many will lose most, if not all, of their windows. Look at what Wilma did to Miami for reference of what the buildings in NYC, and other major cities, will most likely experience. Winds at 850 mb of 120 knots would support surface winds between 72 and 84 knots on the surface (using a 60% and 70% reduction). I'm not sure what the best reduction would be in this scenario, honestly?

Okay...apparently I commented about a comment that is no longer commented.
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