ATL: SANDY - Remnants - Discussion
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TWC just said they no longer expect the water to reach or exceed record levels at the Battery...and that it won't be as bad because the winds are weakening thanks to lack of precip? (Did I say that right? I'm sure someone else saw it too).
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PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
531 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012
..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..
0500 PM NON-TSTM WND GST EATONS NECK 40.95N 73.39W
10/29/2012 M82 MPH SUFFOLK NY MESONET
MESONET
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
531 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012
..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..
0500 PM NON-TSTM WND GST EATONS NECK 40.95N 73.39W
10/29/2012 M82 MPH SUFFOLK NY MESONET
MESONET
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brunota2003 wrote:TWC just said they no longer expect the water to reach or exceed record levels at the Battery...and that it won't be as bad because the winds are weakening thanks to lack of precip? (Did I say that right? I'm sure someone else saw it too).
They said something along those lines.
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brunota2003 wrote:TWC just said they no longer expect the water to reach or exceed record levels at the Battery...and that it won't be as bad because the winds are weakening thanks to lack of precip? (Did I say that right? I'm sure someone else saw it too).
They said record surge was 11.2f. They said low precip on backside of circulation would bring less wind down to ground level and possible lessen the surge.
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karenfromheaven wrote:brunota2003 wrote:TWC just said they no longer expect the water to reach or exceed record levels at the Battery...and that it won't be as bad because the winds are weakening thanks to lack of precip? (Did I say that right? I'm sure someone else saw it too).
They said record surge was 11.2f. They said low precip on backside of circulation would bring less wind down to ground level and possible lessen the surge.
I can't see how the Battery will not get topped. Mixing of wind to the surface is not key here. It's a storm surge that has already built and must come in.
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Evil Jeremy wrote:brunota2003 wrote:TWC just said they no longer expect the water to reach or exceed record levels at the Battery...and that it won't be as bad because the winds are weakening thanks to lack of precip? (Did I say that right? I'm sure someone else saw it too).
They said something along those lines.
We'll see. The surge at Battery does seem to have leveled off, at least for now, at a bit under 7 feet. If it stays there through high tide, the peak level should be about 11 feet which would be less than the record (but enough to cause some substantial flooding of the subway system.
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r22weiss wrote:Sonica wrote:Evil Jeremy wrote:Sandy still a hurricane. All TS warnings remaining are gone. TWC fail lol.
And a lot of people on here jumping on with that. TWC should be more careful to say facts not predictions.
IMO
While NHC is still classifying Sandy as a hurricane, satellite and radar representation shows that it has made the transition to a extra-tropical storm and has been absorbed into the large upper level circulation. Symantics at this point because the effects on the northeast are still the same.
I'd be willing to bet that this hasn't been "tropical" for a few days now. Of course, a 940mb extratropical gale center is still something to be reckoned with, but is it truly a hurricane in the strict warm-core sense? It certainly doesn't look like one in the satellite pictures, and hasn't for a few days.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion
TWC says local weather stations are detecting a landfall of the eye between Sea Isle City, NJ and Ocean City, NJ. That is in between Cape May and Atlantic City.
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Discussion finally out:
AIRCRAFT DATA INDICATE THAT THERE ARE STRONG TEMPERATURE CONTRASTS VERY NEAR
A MODEST RESIDUAL WARM CORE. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES THAT
SANDY IS BECOMING ABSORBED WITHIN A LARGE MID-LATITUDE CYCLONIC
CIRCULATION. ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS LEAD US TO CONCLUDE THAT
THE MOST APPROPRIATE CLASSIFICATION AT ADVISORY TIME IS
EXTRATROPICAL. HOWEVER...FOR CONTINUITY OF SERVICE NHC WILL
CONTINUE TO ISSUE ADVISORIES THROUGH LANDFALL. A POST-STORM
ANALYSIS WILL RE-EXAMINE THE TIMING OF EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.
WE ANTICIPATES THAT THE LAST NHC ADVISORY ON SANDY WILL BE ISSUED AT
11 PM EDT TONIGHT.
AIRCRAFT DATA INDICATE THAT THERE ARE STRONG TEMPERATURE CONTRASTS VERY NEAR
A MODEST RESIDUAL WARM CORE. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES THAT
SANDY IS BECOMING ABSORBED WITHIN A LARGE MID-LATITUDE CYCLONIC
CIRCULATION. ALL OF THESE CONSIDERATIONS LEAD US TO CONCLUDE THAT
THE MOST APPROPRIATE CLASSIFICATION AT ADVISORY TIME IS
EXTRATROPICAL. HOWEVER...FOR CONTINUITY OF SERVICE NHC WILL
CONTINUE TO ISSUE ADVISORIES THROUGH LANDFALL. A POST-STORM
ANALYSIS WILL RE-EXAMINE THE TIMING OF EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION.
WE ANTICIPATES THAT THE LAST NHC ADVISORY ON SANDY WILL BE ISSUED AT
11 PM EDT TONIGHT.
Last edited by Evil Jeremy on Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Patrick99 wrote: I'd be willing to bet that this hasn't been "tropical" for a few days now. Of course, a 940mb extratropical gale center is still something to be reckoned with, but is it truly a hurricane in the strict warm-core sense? It certainly doesn't look like one in the satellite pictures, and hasn't for a few days.
That is completely wrong. It has been tropical until at least mid-day today. What scientific basis are you using to come up with that statement?
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion
5PM NYC area:
REGIONAL WEATHER ROUNDUP
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
500 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012
NOTE: "FAIR" INDICATES FEW OR NO CLOUDS BELOW 12,000 FEET WITH NO
SIGNIFICANT WEATHER AND/OR OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISIBILITY.
REGIONAL WEATHER ROUNDUP
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
500 PM EDT MON OCT 29 2012
NOTE: "FAIR" INDICATES FEW OR NO CLOUDS BELOW 12,000 FEET WITH NO
SIGNIFICANT WEATHER AND/OR OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISIBILITY.
Code: Select all
NYZ071-072-176-178-NJZ106-104-292200-
NEW YORK CITY METRO AREA
CITY SKY/WX TMP DP RH WIND PRES REMARKS
CENTRAL PARK LGT RAIN 59 58 96 NE24G52 28.61F FOG
LAGUARDIA APRT LGT RAIN 63 60 88 NE45G55 28.58F FOG
KENNEDY INTL LGT RAIN 63 60 90 NE45G61 28.54F FOG
NEWARK/LIBERTY RAIN 60 58 92 NE36G52 28.57F FOG
TETERBORO LGT RAIN 60 58 92 NE23G44 28.60F FOG
WHITE PLAINS RAIN 60 56 86 NE21G48 28.67F VSB 1
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion
Just wanted to add how far reaching the wind field is. It has expanded to go over my house yet again. I am 30 miles south of Wilmington, NC. We will go through periods of calm to periods of gusty wind that is equal to or stronger than what we had on Saturday when the bulk of the storm was brushing past us.
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Life guard station slammed againstthe boardwalk at long beach, LI live on news feed http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/livenow?id=8857235
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion
Battery water levels


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In the height of the storm, the NHC just can't wait to wash their hands of this thing.. very strange... maybe something to do with insurance claims and how they classify these things.... just seems strange to me... very strange..
WE ANTICIPATES THAT THE LAST NHC ADVISORY ON SANDY WILL BE ISSUED AT
11 PM EDT TONIGHT. SINCE ALL COASTAL TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS HAVE
BEEN DISCONTINUED...THERE WILL BE NO INTERMEDIATE PUBLIC ADVISORIES
ISSUED BETWEEN NOW AND THE 11 PM NHC ADVISORY. TO PROVIDE A
CONTINUOUS FLOW OF INFORMATION...NHC WILL ISSUE TROPICAL CYCLONE
UPDATES AT 7 PM AND 9 PM EDT...AND AT THE TIME OF LANDFALL. THESE
UPDATES ARE ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER WTNT63...AND AWIPS HEADER
TCUAT3...AND WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON THE NHC WEBSITE. BEGINNING
AT 5 AM EDT TUESDAY...PUBLIC ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE
HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER...HPC...UNDER THE SAME WMO
AND AWIPS HEADERS AS THE NHC PUBLIC ADVISORIES...WHICH WILL ALSO BE
AVAILABLE VIA THE NHC WEBSITE.
WE ANTICIPATES THAT THE LAST NHC ADVISORY ON SANDY WILL BE ISSUED AT
11 PM EDT TONIGHT. SINCE ALL COASTAL TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNINGS HAVE
BEEN DISCONTINUED...THERE WILL BE NO INTERMEDIATE PUBLIC ADVISORIES
ISSUED BETWEEN NOW AND THE 11 PM NHC ADVISORY. TO PROVIDE A
CONTINUOUS FLOW OF INFORMATION...NHC WILL ISSUE TROPICAL CYCLONE
UPDATES AT 7 PM AND 9 PM EDT...AND AT THE TIME OF LANDFALL. THESE
UPDATES ARE ISSUED UNDER WMO HEADER WTNT63...AND AWIPS HEADER
TCUAT3...AND WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE ON THE NHC WEBSITE. BEGINNING
AT 5 AM EDT TUESDAY...PUBLIC ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE
HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER...HPC...UNDER THE SAME WMO
AND AWIPS HEADERS AS THE NHC PUBLIC ADVISORIES...WHICH WILL ALSO BE
AVAILABLE VIA THE NHC WEBSITE.
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