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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#541 Postby HurricaneB » Thu May 10, 2012 9:09 pm

I know sea surface temps are only one factor in predicting a hurricane season but I really think we will see some revised numbers soon......they are too low...the gulf is boiling already like never before......this might be one of those came out of nowhere years

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#542 Postby NDG » Mon May 28, 2012 10:09 pm

Maybe a good warm up for the tropical Atlantic? If GFS ensembles are correct this will be the most negative the NAO will be since at least last summer.

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#543 Postby TheBurn » Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:18 am

SST Map at the start of the Atlantic Season

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#544 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:29 pm

TheBurn wrote:SST Map at the start of the Atlantic Season

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Barely conducive excluding the Caribbean and the GOM.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#545 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:22 pm

Look how the North Atlantic basin in many areas has been warming since the NAO turned negative. March had the coldest waters. 6 month loop below.

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#546 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:59 pm

cycloneye wrote:Look how the North Atlantic basin in many areas has been warming since the NAO turned negative. March had the coldest waters. 6 month loop below.

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Also take note off the North Atlantic tripole developing a sign of an active season possibly in the cards.
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#547 Postby NDG » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:24 am

:uarrow: The average to negative NAO during the last couple of months was something that was not expected by many forecasters.
Now look how warmer (compared to earlier this year) than average the Atlantic Basin is.

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#548 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:43 am

For those who may not know what a North Atlantic tripole is as mentioned by our friend SFLcane,here is a graphic about it.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#549 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:13 am

The ECMWF continues to forecast -NAO thru the end of June.

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And NCEP the same.

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This means more warming of the Atlantic waters.
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#550 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:18 am

:uarrow: Hmm, continuing negative NAO with neutral ENSO conditions, could be a busier than average next couple of months across the basin, IMO.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#551 Postby cycloneye » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:08 pm

Bumping this thread to see how things stand in the sst,s and ssta,s.

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#552 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:29 pm

I was reading some of the posts above and should note that a negative NAO does not automatically guarantee a warming Atlantic, and a positive NAO does not automatically guarantee a cooling Atlantic; sometimes these are switched. For example...

We are currently in the postive NAO phase, and it's quite potent as well...the highest we've seen in well over several months. However, because the dipole -- the separation of positive/negative charges, in this case the separation of below and above-average trade winds -- has shifted farther north, very weak trade winds encompass, and are forecast to encompass, much of the tropical Atlantic and MDR through the end of this month. This is leading to a substantial warm-up.
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#553 Postby artist » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:13 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:I was reading some of the posts above and should note that a negative NAO does not automatically guarantee a warming Atlantic, and a positive NAO does not automatically guarantee a cooling Atlantic; sometimes these are switched. For example...

We are currently in the postive NAO phase, and it's quite potent as well...the highest we've seen in well over several months. However, because the dipole -- the separation of positive/negative charges, in this case the separation of below and above-average trade winds -- has shifted farther north, very weak trade winds encompass, and are forecast to encompass, much of the tropical Atlantic and MDR through the end of this month. This is leading to a substantial warm-up.


thanks for that descriptive post.
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#554 Postby cycloneye » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:20 am

The April 22nd update. No change to the warmer than average Tropical Atlantic.

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#555 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:06 pm

Hotbed of trouble. We need to keep an eye on this. Any early-season waves headed across, on the normal April-ITCZ latitude?

(At least I think waves travel year-round, even when the ITCZ sinks south.)
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#556 Postby cycloneye » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:10 pm

There is another warmup starting.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#557 Postby HurricaneFan » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:23 pm

Is it normal for the cold part of Atlantic Tripole to reach the NE Caribbean?And how long will it last?
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#558 Postby cycloneye » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:43 pm

HurricaneFan wrote:Is it normal for the cold part of Atlantic Tripole to reach the NE Caribbean?And how long will it last?


If the NAO goes negative soon as forecast then things will warm in the NE Caribbean waters where is not so warm.

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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#559 Postby USTropics » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:31 pm

Before it gets busy on here, just wanted to throw some thanks to Cycloneye for doing an amazing job like usual with the continuous updates throughout the off season. He is always spot on.

Also to add some more insight to what most of us are expecting to happen here shortly (a quick ramp up of SSTAs), I've been looking at the GFS ensembles 10m zonal wind anomaly 7 day average the past week. Here is an image from a week ago:
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Now compare that to the most current run and you'll see massive zonal wind anomaly developing across the MDR and the East Atlantic:
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The GEM ensembles also is in agreement:
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What does all this mean? We should see a significant drop in the trade winds as a cutoff low replaces the current position of the subtropical ridge. Since trade winds act as a cooling mechanism to the SSTs, with slow to nonexistent trade winds an increase in SSTAs is expected in the MDR to East Atlantic region through at least the next 2 weeks. This is also what TropicalAnalystwx13 and others have been eluding to from the weekend conversation.

This is a link to the models of the graphics that I used:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/
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Re: Atlantic Sea Surface Temperatures and Anomalies

#560 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:44 pm

Here is the latest MDR data.

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