GOES-13 is back on full operation

[cycloneye]

Our Atlantic satellite is out today but they are trying hard to fix the problem as soon as possible. In the meantime GOES-14 will be in service while 13 is fixed.

Subject: Product Outage/Anomaly: GOES-13 (GOES-East) Data outage:
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*Topic: *GOES-13 (GOES-East*) *Data**outage*
*

*Date/Time**Issued:***May 22, 2013 0420 UTC*
*

*Product(s) or Data Impacted: ***GOES-13 (GOES-East) Imager Data and
Products****

*Date/Time of Initial Impact:*May 22, 2013 0340 UTC**

*Date/Time of Expected End:*Unknown**

*Length of Outage:*TBD*
*

*Details/Specifics of Change:*Due to an anomaly which occurred approx.
0340z on G-13, East imaging stopped. GOES-15 will enter a full disk
scheduled at 0429z. Engineering is en-route to access the situation and
GOES-15 will run in full disk mode until further notice.*
*

Latest Update

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SUBJECT: PRODUCT OUTAGE/ANOMALY: GOES-13 (GOES-EAST) DATA OUTAGE:

****UPDATE#4: ****RECOVERY EFFORTS FORGOES-13 CONTINUE AND THE
SPACECRAFT HEALTH AND SAFETY ARE NOMINAL. GOES-14 IS BEING ACTIVATED
AND
THE FIRST IMAGES WILL BE AVAILABLE @ 0500 UTC ON THURS. MAY 23RD, 2013.

**UPDATE#3: **INITIAL****GOES-13 RECOVERY PROCEDURE WAS UNSUCCESSFUL.
RETURN TO SERVICE TIME LINE BEING REEVALUATED.**
*
UPDATE#2: *GOES-13 ANOMALY STATUS HAS NOT CHANGED, THE ENGINEER TEAM IS
COMMANDING THE SATELLITE AFTER CONSULTING THE SUPPORT TEAM. COMMANDING
WILL TAKE APPROX. 5 HOURS AND IF SUCCESSFUL SHOULD RETURN TO SERVICE
SHORTLY AFTER THAT.*

UPDATE#1: *GOES-13 ANOMALY CONTINUES, THE ENGINEERS ARE ON
SITE. BARRING
FURTHER ANOMALIES THE EXPECTED RETURN TO SERVICES IS APPROX. 14 HOURS
FROM THIS UPDATE.*

TOPIC: *GOES-13 (GOES-EAST*) *DATA**OUTAGE*

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/bulletins.html

[wxman57]

Looks like we created the same thread at the same time, Luis. I deleted mine. Word I have from SSEC is that GOES-13 has failed and GOES-14 is being taken out of storage to replace it. Don't know if that means GOES-13 cannot be fixed. Sounds like it might, though.

[cycloneye]

In the latest update,it looks like GOES-13 will be out for a while but GOES-14 will replace it starting early Thursday.

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*Update#6:* GOES-13 has been placed into storage mode while the anomaly
is investigated. There is no new information at this time.

GOES-14 imaging should be available starting at about 0600Z tomorrow,
May 23rd. The imager will start up in a recovery mode, which has
reduced sectors so that additional star calibrations can be
taken. Until
this is complete, the imagery should not be considered within normal
tolerance.

Transition to the normal schedule should take place about 1400Z
tomorrow, May 23rd. ****

Update#5: ****Recovery efforts forGOES-13 continue and the spacecraft
health and safety are nominal. GOES-14 is being activated and
the first
images will be available @ 0500 UTC on Thurs. May 23rd, 2013.****

Update#4: ****Recovery efforts forGOES-13 continue and the spacecraft
health and safety are nominal. GOES-14 is being activated and
the first
images will be available @ 0500 UTC on Thurs. May 23rd, 2013.

**Update#3: **Initial****GOES-13 recovery procedure was unsuccessful.
Return to service time line being reevaluated.**

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/messages.html

[chaser1]

Anyone hear any mention whether GOES 14 will provide any different/less coverage in either terms of "area", quality of photo, or frequency of pass?

[wxman57]

GOES-14 is the next generation satellite (GOES-O) that was designed to take over for GOES-13 (GOES-N) when GOES-13 ceased to function. Beginning last year, GOES-14 was moved eastward to 75W to be ready to take over for GOES-13 should the need arise. The satellite is slightly more advanced than GOES-13, so there certainly won't be any degradation of service. The next big leap in technology will come with the launch of the next-gen satellite (GOES-R) in 2015 (I hope).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOES_14

Update: That Wikipedia article may be in error about the eastward movement starting last October. The current GOES satellite blog says that GOES-14 is still at 105W. If that's the case, then the satellite would still need to be moved 30 deg east to fully cover the Atlantic Basin. That would take just over a month. Should be fine, as Meteosat would cover the east Atlantic well enough and we don't expect any activity east of the Caribbean in the first month of the season.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/archives/13031

[cycloneye]

Update#9: *GOES-13 has been placed into storage mode while the anomaly
is investigated. There is no new information or estimated return to
service at this time. *
*GOES-14 imaging should be available starting at approximately 0600 UTC
on May 23, 2013.*

[cycloneye]

Here is the very latest about the status of GOES-13 being out of service for the time being and GOES-14 now in operation.

********Update#13: ********GOES-13 has been placed into storage mode
while the anomaly is investigated. There is no new information or
estimated return to service at this time.

> GOES-14:**Comm services (SAR, DCS, etc) are operational; payload
> activation is complete and recovery mode imaging commenced at
> approximately 0800 UTC May 23, 2013. Until recovery mode is
complete,
> the imagery should not be considered within normal tolerance for
> navigation. Transition to the normal routine schedule (or RSO if
> requested) should take place at approximately 1600 UTC on May 23,
> 2013. The ingest and distribution channels of GOES-East data
have not
> been changed, so the satepsdist ADDE servers are automatically
> receiving GOES-14 data. Regarding GOES-East GVAR, users will need to
> repoint their antennas to GOES-14 at 105 degrees West in order to
> receive the GOES-14 GVAR broadcast data stream. GOES-14 GVAR
will not
> be transmitted through GOES-13 channels while GOES-13 recovery
efforts
> continue. Since the recovery schedule is presently unknown, users
> should consider their near-term needs against the efforts required to
> repoint to GOES-14.

GOES-15 (West) remains in full disk mode and will continue in that
schedule until further notice. ******

[tolakram]

Engineering is en-route to access the situation

Sending some guy up in space to take a look?

Someday, maybe.

[supercane4867]

The dead zone to the east is annoying

[cycloneye]

*Update#16: *
GOES-14 is providing GOES-East coverage. GOES-14 product processing and
distribution continues to be nominal. GOES-14 is stationary at 105
degrees West with no current plans to drift east. The imagery has
approached normal tolerance for navigation at an accelerated rate,
which
will allow a return to normal operations ahead of schedule at 0135 UTC
on May 24, 2013. Both Routine and Rapid Scan (RSO) imaging schedules
will be available at that time.

GOES-15 terminated full disk imaging and returned to the routine West
schedule at 1000 UTC on May 23, 2013.

GOES-13 will remain in storage mode while the anomaly is being
investigated. There is no estimate on return to operations at
this time.

[brunota2003]

The last time -13 went out, they were talking about (and I think started the process) drifting -14 east, into the main spot. They should have drifted it in and held just short, knowing that issues with -13 (it is getting old) were possible, and it could go out at any point. I hope they get this fixed, otherwise we will not have any backups!

[thetruesms]

GOES-14 is the next generation satellite (GOES-O) that was designed to take over for GOES-13 (GOES-N) when GOES-13 ceased to function. Beginning last year, GOES-14 was moved eastward to 75W to be ready to take over for GOES-13 should the need arise. The satellite is slightly more advanced than GOES-13, so there certainly won't be any degradation of service. The next big leap in technology will come with the launch of the next-gen satellite (GOES-R) in 2015 (I hope).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOES_14

Update: That Wikipedia article may be in error about the eastward movement starting last October. The current GOES satellite blog says that GOES-14 is still at 105W. If that's the case, then the satellite would still need to be moved 30 deg east to fully cover the Atlantic Basin. That would take just over a month. Should be fine, as Meteosat would cover the east Atlantic well enough and we don't expect any activity east of the Caribbean in the first month of the season.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/archives/13031

The article may have confused the temporary drift the last time GOES-13 went down as a permanent one, but they returned it to 105 afterwards. From what scuttlebutt I had heard through the grapevine last time, they were initially very worried that 13 was done. Which, from the drift, probably had some truth to it. That they're leaving 14 put for now tells me they think that this is repairable at the moment.

And I am fully in agreement with your parenthetical on GOES-R. I will believe GOES-R is a real thing when it is on a rocket heading into orbit.

The last time -13 went out, they were talking about (and I think started the process) drifting -14 east, into the main spot. They should have drifted it in and held just short, knowing that issues with -13 (it is getting old) were possible, and it could go out at any point. I hope they get this fixed, otherwise we will not have any backups!

They did indeed begin the eastward drift, but reversed it when they got 13 back. Though it may make sense to drift 14 east to better backup 13, they're kind of hamstrung by the fact that 14 is also 15's backup as GOES-West. It may not be nearly as likely, but they still have to cover it. That spot at 105 lets one satellite back up both equally well.

[cycloneye]

Let's hope that 13 gets repaired and be operational during the peak of the season arrives because if 14 for some reason goes out -----. And the next launch of a new satellite will be in 2015.

[brunota2003]

I wish they had a back up for QuikScat, I miss that little satellite. Thanks for the clarification on 14!

[Hurricaneman]

If 13 is out for good, we have the european satellites, but if both go out its back to the pre satellite era which would cause big problems

[Aric Dunn]

If 13 is out for good, we have the european satellites, but if both go out its back to the pre satellite era which would cause big problems

no there are other classified gov sat that can be used. the nhc will not be blind.

[Hurricaneman]

thanks, I didnt know if they would use asian and european satellites

[cycloneye]

Here is the latest update about GOES-13 and GOES-14. They are doing new tests to GOES-13 after it came out from storage.

Update#17:

GOES-14 is providing GOES-East coverage from its position at 105
degrees
West and is available to provide Rapid Scan Operations as needed.
GOES-East derived products are being successfully generated, with
exception of those that require 30 days of continuous satellite
location. There are no current plans to drift GOES-East from its
current location at 105 degrees West.

GOES-13 remains out of service with no estimate on return to operations
at this time. It was successfully brought out of storage mode for
testing last night, and will be monitored for 24 hours.

GOES-14 will continue to operate as GOES-East while GOES-13 is being
checked out. Root cause investigation continues on the GOES-13
anomaly.

GOES-15 is providing GOES-West coverage.

The GOES satellites will remain in this configuration until further
notice. *

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/messages.html

[cycloneye]

Tests being made to GOES-13

This is good news to see if GOES-13 responds to the tests being done. If all the tests are successful,it will go back to operation on June 5th.

*Update#18: *

GOES-13 recovery efforts continue and the GOES-13 imager and sounder,
located at 75 degrees West, will be turned on today for testing
purposes
ONLY. Reactivation of the instruments will begin at 1900 UTC and
imagery will become available via GVAR by 2200 UTC. GOES-13 will still
be in INR recovery, so imagery is not initially expected to be within
specifications. NESDIS will verify and validate the GOES-13 products
and services over the next several days and also conduct sounder
outgassing procedures to improve the products from the sounder
instrument. If products and services receive a positive review, the
current planning is that they will be made available to users at the
earliest on June 5, 2013. Direct readout users who wish to examine the
data should be aware that the data are for testing purposes only
at this time.
Any feedback direct readout users wish to provide may be
directed
to the 24-hour ESPC Help Desk at ESPCOperations@noaa.gov
<mailto:ESPCOperations@noaa.gov>


GOES-14 is providing GOES-East coverage from its position at 105
degrees
West and is available to provide Rapid Scan Operations as needed.
GOES-East derived products are being successfully generated, with
exception of those that require 30 days of continuous satellite
location. There are no current plans to drift GOES-East from its
current location at 105 degrees West.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/messages.html

[cycloneye]

GOES-13 doing well in the tests being made

If all continues well,it will be operational on June 5th. Crossing fingers that the worse is over.

*Update#19:*

GOES-14 is providing GOES-East coverage from its position at 105
degrees
West and is available to provide Rapid Scan Operations as needed.
GOES-East derived products are being successfully generated, with
exception of those that require 30 days of continuous satellite
location. There are no current plans to drift GOES-14 from its current
location at 105 degrees West. Due to the location of GOES-14 at a
longitude further West than the nominal GOES-East location, the CONUS
imagery at the top and half of every hour (HH00 UTC and HH30 UTC) does
not capture the Puerto Rico vicinity. To mitigate the situation, those
two CONUS frames will be modified today, effective at 1515 UTC. The
frames are modified in two ways: 1. The eastern edge of the CONUS
frame
will move farther East capturing Puerto Rico at approximately 64
degrees
West and 2. The northern edge of the CONUS frame will move farther
south
near the northern extent of James Bay in Canada at approximately 55
degrees North.

GOES-13 recovery efforts continue as the imager and sounder are
providing data for testing purposes only from 75 degrees West. GOES-13
is still in INR recovery, so imagery is not yet within specifications.
NESDIS will verify and validate the GOES-13 products and services
over
the next several days and also conduct sounder outgassing procedures to
improve the products from the sounder instrument. If products and
services receive a positive review, the current planning is that they
will be made available to users at the earliest on June 5, 2013.
Direct
readout users who wish to examine the data should be aware that
the data
are for testing purposes only at this time. Any feedback direct
readout
users wish to provide may be directed to the 24-hour ESPC Help Desk at
ESPCOperations@noaa.gov <mailto:ESPCOperations@noaa.gov>

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/SATS/MESS/MSG1511518.01.txt