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#421 Postby bahamaswx » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:37 am

Firing nicely now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#422 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:50 am

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#423 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:59 am

Cyclenall wrote:
HurricaneHunter914 wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/91L/flash-avn-long.html

Ball of convection blowing up very close to the center.

I haven't seen you post here in years.

I haven't followed Invest 91L (or 90L, what happened to that?) much but it appears to be a classic June Gulf system, similar to TS Alberto in 2006.

Haha, I became a lurker for awhile, but I decided to become a Meteorology major, so I figured its time to go back into the fray.

The next TWO is going to be interesting. This flare up has been fairly persistent and hasn't been sheared off to the east. Could possibly have Andrea before the day's end if this continues.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#424 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:13 am

Nice size hot tower beginning to fire off.

Looks like this could be a long duration one.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/htdocs_dyn_a ... xico.0.jpg
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#425 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:14 am

Hard to tell but it looks like a more defined surface COC or LLC is trying to redevelop closer to the deep convection, near 25N and 87-88W area.
Vis satellite should give us a better picture.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#426 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:21 am

Hot Tower is pretty far from the current fixed COC.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 050845.jpg

However, it is very likely the COC could get pulled closer to it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#427 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:27 am

Not just off-the-scale rain rate, but cloud tops also very cold with the hot-tower - text book

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#428 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:32 am

Sorry for being off topic here, but I was just scanning RAP and saw a very nasty set up for OK this afternoon.

Off-scale helicity and CAPE over 4000.
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#429 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:33 am

Boom, this has a window to develop further with the latest convection burst and shear letting up. I now wonder if this deepens more than what GFS and ECM have depicted if it doesn't move more poleward toward the Panhandle as the GGEM has been predicting.
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#430 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:48 am

This is the most concentrated converge I have seen with this system with H85 vorticity increasing over the eastern convection a sign that the surface low pressure might move closer to the convection this morning.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#431 Postby caneman » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:57 am

Looking much better this morning. Lopsided yes but you expect that this time of year. Think the LLC will develop under the convection. Looks like we'll have a TD today in my opinion.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#432 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:01 am

The off-scale high rain rate only lasted about 1/2 hour, but it continues to fire very cold cloud tops.
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#433 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:25 am

as suspected last night. that vigorious mid lvl citrc had spawned a new wahat appears to be a well defined llc with organized deep convection firing and maintaining. very likely nhc will find a td if not a ts today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#434 Postby weatherwindow » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:27 am

GCANE wrote:Nice size hot tower beginning to fire off.

Looks like this could be a long duration one.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/htdocs_dyn_a ... xico.0.jpg

Good morning, G...hopefully it will persist long enough to start warming the column and give a boost to some anticyclonic assist aloft
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#435 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:29 am

For the most part this is a typical looking tropical system for early June in the GOM, nothing more expected.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#436 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:31 am

the bouy very the llc has had decent pressure fall and sustainded td winds . probably very like thete are sustained ts winds in the deep convevtion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#437 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:41 am

Aric Dunn wrote:the bouy very the llc has had decent pressure fall and sustainded td winds . probably very like thete are sustained ts winds in the deep convevtion

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/plot_wind_pres ... _label=CDT


And this buoy is no where close to the deep convection which is a good 100-150 miles to the south from this buoy.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#438 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:56 am

GCANE wrote:Sorry for being off topic here, but I was just scanning RAP and saw a very nasty set up for OK this afternoon.

Off-scale helicity and CAPE over 4000.
CAPE over 4000 is always worth posting about regardless of the topic, good work
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#439 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:56 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L

#440 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:58 am

NDG wrote:IMO, we have at least a TD.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php? ... _label=CDT


you need a closed circulation at the surface, not just wind
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