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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5181 Postby blp » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:39 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:It's back

12Z

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Yea and the Euro seems to be showing it as well.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5182 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:57 pm

blp wrote:
SouthFloridawx wrote:It's back

12Z

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4153/82q.gif[/img]


Yea and the Euro seems to be showing it as well.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... !chart.gif


We now have a model consensus and if you mix the Euro and GFS it would need to be watched first in the Caribbean islands including PR, Hispaniola and Cuba and from there the Southeastern US

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5183 Postby SouthFloridawx » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:01 pm

7/17 - 18Z 850mb Vorticity:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp3nEVuFTH0&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5184 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:25 pm

18Z GFS; 192hr. Shows low emerging off of Africa

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5185 Postby N2FSU » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:26 pm

18Z GFS; 384hr

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5186 Postby Alyono » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:18z GFS failed to develop CV Wave. Why the model is so inconsistent?


what do you expect from a series of numerical APPROXIMATIONS whose errors grow in time?
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5187 Postby ROCK » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:46 pm

Alyono wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS failed to develop CV Wave. Why the model is so inconsistent?


what do you expect from a series of numerical APPROXIMATIONS whose errors grow in time?


Thanks for clearing that up.... :lol:
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5188 Postby northtxboy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:37 am

Alyono wrote:
cycloneye wrote:18z GFS failed to develop CV Wave. Why the model is so inconsistent?


what do you expect from a series of numerical APPROXIMATIONS whose errors grow in time?



Could you say that agian with a lower level of language please :double:
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5189 Postby BigB0882 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:39 am




I know this is very long range but what kind of set up is this showing? It looks a little lower than some storms that would recurve. Is it still heading W or WNW or is it beginning a more NW movement? How does ridging look? I think I see an opening to go East of FL but I can't be sure.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5190 Postby Stormlover2012 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:00 am

Would likely get in gulf.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5191 Postby Blown Away » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:51 am

Our low is gone from 00z & 06z GFS runs...
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5192 Postby crownweather » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:16 am

Blown Away wrote:Our low is gone from 00z & 06z GFS runs...


Actually it is still there (low pressure just south of the Cape Verde Islands on July 26th), however GFS seems to pull it northwest and then northward right into a high pressure system (even at 500 mb, no break in ridge evident). This seems quite suspect and am discounting the details of the 00 and 06Z GFS forecast, except the fact it does show low pressure near the Cape Verde Islands on July 26th.
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#5193 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:18 am

A look through all the global models this morning shows basically nothing for the next 7 days at least. The waiting continues...
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5194 Postby Janie2006 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:48 am

Approximations are just that....mathematical estimates....a guess. Since it isn't *exact* the tendency is to have very large errors as time progresses.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5195 Postby hurricanedude » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:54 am

weather in general is largely a guess... I learned that many years ago when my local weatherman said there was no chance of rain for that day...nothing to trigger storms so go ahead with your plans for the day...during his yacking a severe thunderstorm warning was issued, and it seemed to rain and storm all day...and he said "well, i guess i was wrong"....goes without saying..never say never!
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5196 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:10 pm

12z GFS fails to develop so that makes it three runs in a row that after having a low pressure emerge West Africa,it vanishes later. The waiting continues for the models to show a real consensus.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5197 Postby SouthFloridawx » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:18 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z GFS fails to develop so that makes it three runs in a row that after having a low pressure emerge West Africa,it vanishes later. The waiting continues for the models to show a real consensus.


Luis... it's definitely still there, just not as strong as the runs yesterday and the day before.

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#5198 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:26 pm

Quick update on the MJO and models forecasting it. GFS sends it back into the wrong phases IMO (remember MJO does not go backwards) and most of the weak convection there is exists in the eastern IO/western Maritime but very incoherent. Euro is expecting a renewal wave in the IO which I am more inclined to believe since there is some +mountain torque event support. There could be development during this period but likely rogue. After that it will take about 30-45 days for the new MJO wave to progress back into the favorable phases which if it gets going soon should be about mid to late August. Still favor that period intact with best climo.
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#5199 Postby ninel conde » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:00 pm

if things dont pick up by late august its onto next season.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#5200 Postby supercane4867 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:48 pm

Go home GFS, you're drunk

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