ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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#461 Postby Cainer » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:35 am

Is that an eye-feature trying to form, or just a dry slot? It seems to line up with the centre position...
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Models

#462 Postby hurricaneCW » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:38 am

I wouldn't be too concerned about this one regardless of track but perhaps it may dictate where more powerful storms may go come August/September.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#463 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:40 am

12:15Z image just finished

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#464 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:40 am

meriland23 wrote:TD4 might become a dud, but it's existence is symbolic of something much more dire.


Maybe, the models not picking up on any significant development through August 9th. I'm sure we will see more activity in August, but models not picking up on that so far. Seems most of the models now shear TD4 into remnants after 120 hours...
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#465 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:45 am

All I have to say this morning is "long live the GFS!" :)
Dorian is giving a much needed respect to this model that was trashed this past weekend by many people this past weekend.
The ECMWF is back to its conservative mode for tropical development that it was back few years ago and the GEM/CMC is just as crazy as it was before its upgrade.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#466 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:46 am

Model guidance now says "Dorian" with 35 kts.
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#467 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:51 am

wxman57 wrote:Model guidance now says "Dorian" with 35 kts.


Agree on it now a T.S. Looks rather good on SAT imagery this morning, though the area of convection is relatively small. NHC will upgrade this to Dorian for the 11AM EST advisory.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#468 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:51 am

Lots of overshooting tops - doing some serious cirrus building.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 240845.GIF
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#469 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:52 am

Yes wxman 57, Dorian is now born.

AL, 04, 2013072412, , BEST, 0, 140N, 290W, 35, 1006, TS, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 0, 30, 1012, 150, 20, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, DORIAN, D,
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#470 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:52 am

wxman57 wrote:Model guidance now says "Dorian" with 35 kts.

if thats the beginning of a partial eywall forming it maybe just tad stronger...
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#471 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:55 am

Big area of 30-knot barbs on multi-sat surface analysis

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 0_SWHR.GIF
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#472 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:56 am

00Z FIM model from Earth Research Laboratory 168 hour forecast, slight WNW bend at the end and has it passing just north of the islands towards SE Bahamas:

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#473 Postby GCANE » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:57 am

Latest 85GHz Microwave - don't think there is an eyewall yet.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/htdocs_dyn_p ... W.80pc.jpg
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#474 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:57 am

Looks pretty good this morning. It seems to pulling together nicely and imo this has been Dorian for quite sometime. I can' t say for sure if that it a potential "eyewall" feature we are seeing on satellite imagery. I think it may be more of a dry slot as well, but I have to say that it is very intriguing to look at this morning. I wouldn't be shocked at all if this is already at 45-50 kts right now. Just my own thoughts.
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#475 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:58 am

gatorcane wrote:00Z FIM model from Earth Research Laboratory 168 hour forecast, slight WNW bend at the end and has it passing just north of the islands towards SE Bahamas:

[img]http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6211/no8z.png[/img


Classic CV track towards SFL IMO, fortunately it appears a very weak system at best...
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#476 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:59 am

This vis satellite loop shows very clearly the convection wrapping around Dorian's LLC this morning.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 240845.GIF
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#477 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:00 am

NDG wrote:This vis satellite loop shows very clearly the convection wrapping around Dorian's LLC this morning.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 240845.GIF



Sure looks like an "eye like" feature to me.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#478 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:00 am

GCANE wrote:Latest 85GHz Microwave - don't think there is an eyewall yet.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/htdocs_dyn_p ... W.80pc.jpg


I hate to call it an eyewall on the current vis satellite but this microwave pass is 3 hrs old.
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Re: ATL: FOUR - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#479 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:04 am

Heat content may be limiting for the next day or so, depending on track.

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Re: ATL: FOUR - Models

#480 Postby Blown Away » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:05 am

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12z...LGEM brings Dorian to Cat 2...Most intensity models now keep Dorian as strong TS or Cat 1...Big shift from 06z...
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