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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1521 Postby N2FSU » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:35 am

06Z GFS; 117hr. Makes the WSW dive between Haiti and eastern Cuba

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1522 Postby tailgater » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:37 am

Alyono wrote:Dorian is in MAJOR trouble now

Convective pattern needs to improve or else this will revert back to a wave. Perhaps the new GFS is better than the old one


This is partly the cause of his demise along with mid level shear.

http://mkwc.ifa.hawaii.edu/satellite/sa ... type=flash
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1523 Postby N2FSU » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:38 am

06Z GFS; 132hr

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1524 Postby N2FSU » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:45 am

06Z GFS; 159hr

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#1525 Postby Alyono » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:45 am

I wonder if it is a wave NOW

I just looked at the visible imagery and do not see any sign of a circulation
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#1526 Postby ninel conde » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:48 am

Alyono wrote:Dorian is in MAJOR trouble now

Convective pattern needs to improve or else this will revert back to a wave. Perhaps the new GFS is better than the old one



always need to take notice when the euro never shows much. may be the 2nd in a row to fall apart in deep tropical waters. trend?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1527 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:55 am

Looks closed.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1528 Postby tailgater » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:05 am

SST's will start slowly rising
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I think i see a hot on the western edge, haven't seen that in a while.
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#1529 Postby Alyono » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:06 am

ninel conde wrote:
Alyono wrote:Dorian is in MAJOR trouble now

Convective pattern needs to improve or else this will revert back to a wave. Perhaps the new GFS is better than the old one



always need to take notice when the euro never shows much. may be the 2nd in a row to fall apart in deep tropical waters. trend?


The ECMWF NEVER shows anything in the deep tropics. It saying this would be nothing is not exactly meaningful. It has missed many other storms around the world this year
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1530 Postby Alyono » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:07 am

Hurricane Alexis wrote:Looks closed.

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#1531 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:09 am

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#1532 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:11 am

Latest Shear Tendency map:

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#1533 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:14 am

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#1534 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:15 am

Woke up this morning to a less organized storm... Not surprising. :roll:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1535 Postby jhpigott » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:26 am

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#1536 Postby ninel conde » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:28 am

Alyono wrote:
ninel conde wrote:
Alyono wrote:Dorian is in MAJOR trouble now

Convective pattern needs to improve or else this will revert back to a wave. Perhaps the new GFS is better than the old one



always need to take notice when the euro never shows much. may be the 2nd in a row to fall apart in deep tropical waters. trend?


The ECMWF NEVER shows anything in the deep tropics. It saying this would be nothing is not exactly meaningful. It has missed many other storms around the world this year


thanks. its going to be interesting to see the fate of the next one that forms off africa.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1537 Postby Blown Away » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:28 am

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06z Models...Most keep Dorian N of the big islands...Bit of a north trend with the 06z...If Dorian survives I bet we see a turn near the end of the forecast over time

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06z Intensity Models...Most keep Dorian as a moderate TS
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#1538 Postby Gustywind » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:31 am

...Dorian becoming less organized...

summary of 500 am AST...0900 UTC...information
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location...17.1n 41.5w
about 1425 mi...2290 km E of the northern Leeward Islands
maximum sustained winds...50 mph...85 km/h
present movement...WNW or 285 degrees at 20 mph...32 km/h
minimum central pressure...1001 mb...29.56 inches


Interests in the northern Leeward Islands should monitor the
progress of dorian.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1539 Postby tolakram » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:32 am

Live visible: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... umframes=5

I think there's a decent chance this is an open wave. Both the visible and the MIMIC-TPW show Dorian losing circulation.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Models

#1540 Postby Blown Away » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:41 am

479
WHXX01 KWBC 260635
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0635 UTC FRI JUL 26 2013
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE DORIAN (AL042013) 20130726 0600 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
130726 0600 130726 1800 130727 0600 130727 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 16.9N 40.5W 17.7N 45.1W 18.3N 49.4W 18.6N 53.5W
BAMD 16.9N 40.5W 17.8N 43.5W 18.4N 46.2W 18.9N 48.6W
BAMM 16.9N 40.5W 17.8N 43.9W 18.3N 47.1W 18.8N 50.1W
LBAR 16.9N 40.5W 17.5N 43.9W 18.2N 47.6W 18.8N 51.2W
SHIP 45KTS 42KTS 41KTS 42KTS
DSHP 45KTS 42KTS 41KTS 42KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
130728 0600 130729 0600 130730 0600 130731 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 18.8N 57.3W 18.9N 64.6W 18.4N 72.1W 17.4N 79.3W
BAMD 19.2N 50.7W 19.2N 54.2W 18.4N 57.1W 17.7N 59.7W
BAMM 19.1N 53.0W 19.5N 58.4W 19.4N 63.4W 19.7N 67.9W
LBAR 19.2N 54.5W 18.9N 59.9W 17.9N 64.8W 0.0N 0.0W
SHIP 42KTS 48KTS 47KTS 45KTS
DSHP 42KTS 48KTS 47KTS 45KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 16.9N LONCUR = 40.5W DIRCUR = 285DEG SPDCUR = 17KT
LATM12 = 16.0N LONM12 = 37.1W DIRM12 = 284DEG SPDM12 = 17KT
LATM24 = 15.3N LONM24 = 33.9W
WNDCUR = 45KT RMAXWD = 20NM WNDM12 = 50KT
CENPRS = 1001MB OUTPRS = 1016MB OUTRAD = 120NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 50NM RD34SE = 40NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 40NM
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