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#41 Postby ninel conde » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:38 am

nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.
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Re: Strong SAL outbreak

#42 Postby ronjon » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:58 am

I dunno not many but that won't be the case this August. Things starting to round into shape for the cape verde season. Look at the WV loop, huge area of moisture almost up to 20 N across the eastern atlantic.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/eumet/eatl/loop-wv.html
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Re: Strong SAL outbreak

#43 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:11 am

For those of you fretting over the SAL outbreak, there's a very good piece of research available online.

From the Wikipedia entry on SAL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saharan_Air_Layer

this research paper: http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10. ... S-85-3-353

SAL catches up to storms, not the other way around. So conditions behind this outbreak are unknown.
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#44 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:36 am

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#45 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:37 am

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#46 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:37 am

HURAKAN wrote:https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1073958_10200356239008990_846720336_o.jpg

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Not as thick as on Tuesday but still strong.
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Re: Strong SAL outbreak

#47 Postby StormTracker » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:38 am

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I've seen some posts asking what SAL is and how it can affect tropical cyclones, so here is a little info on the matter. Notice "Erin" in the top pic? Could Erin 2013 possibly get caught up in the SAL the same way as his predecessor??? Hmmm...

The SAL and (top) 2001 Erin (middle) Helene 2006, and (bottom) Bill 2009
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The Saharan Air Layer (SAL) is a mass of very dry, dusty air which forms over the Sahara Desert during the late spring, summer, and early fall and usually moves out over the tropical North Atlantic Ocean every 3-5 days. The SAL extends between ~5,000-20,000 ft (~1500-6000 m) in the atmosphere and is associated with large amounts of mineral dust, dry air (~50% less moisture than a typical moist tropical sounding), and strong winds (~25-55 mph or ~10-25 m/s). These strong winds, or jets, are usually found between 6,500-14,500 ft (2000-4500 m) above the surface in the central and western North Atlantic and have a depth of ~1-2 miles (~1.6-3.2 km).

The SAL can have a significant negative impact on tropical cyclone intensity and formation. Its dry air can act to weaken a tropical cyclone by promoting downdrafts around the storm, while its strong winds can substantially increase the vertical wind shear in and around the storm environment. It is not yet clear what effect the SAL's dust has on tropical cyclone intensity, though some recent studies have suggested that it can actually impact the formation of clouds.

The SAL can cover an area the size of the continental U.S. and has been tracked as far west as the Caribbean Sea, Central America, and the Gulf of Mexico. Real-time satellite imagery for tracking the SAL can be found here.

References:
NOAA Hurricane Research Division
•Dunion, J.P., and C.S. Velden, 2004: The impact of the Saharan Air Layer on Atlantic tropical cyclone activity. Bull. Amer. Meteor. Soc., vol. 85 no. 3, 353-365.
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#48 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:35 am

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Not cloudy, DUSTY! Saharan dust affecting the Canary Islands

http://www.azarugsurfhouse.com/index.html
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Re: Strong SAL outbreak

#49 Postby StormTracker » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:59 am

:eek: That can't be good on the eyes, respiratory system, nothing! That's just downright nasty! They probably pray for a system or two to miraculously come their way to clear the air! It's bad enough when we get it all the way over here!
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#50 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:00 pm

ninel conde wrote:nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.



As far as I know the answer is two 1961 & 1997. 1961 had seven major hurricanes though so a quiet August does not mean a quiet season, and 1997 featured a strong El Nino.
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#51 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:12 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.



As far as I know the answer is two 1961 & 1997. 1961 had seven major hurricanes though so a quiet August does not mean a quiet season, and 1997 featured a strong El Nino.


Strange tidbit Princess Diana was born during a hurricane season (July 1st 1961) with no August named storms & died in a season with no August named storms (August 31st 1997).
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Re: Strong SAL outbreak

#52 Postby tolakram » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:05 pm

This updating loop of the SAL demonstrates how fast it moves. See how it's passing up the wave at 30W?

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/s ... litE5.html
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#53 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:33 pm

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#54 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:44 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.



As far as I know the answer is two 1961 & 1997. 1961 had seven major hurricanes though so a quiet August does not mean a quiet season, and 1997 featured a strong El Nino.


1914 AHS? It's only storm was in September IIRC.
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#55 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:15 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.



As far as I know the answer is two 1961 & 1997. 1961 had seven major hurricanes though so a quiet August does not mean a quiet season, and 1997 featured a strong El Nino.


1914 AHS? It's only storm was in September IIRC.


I ignore anything before 1950 or so. Too many holes in the data.
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#56 Postby Alyono » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:36 pm

ninel conde wrote:nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.


truth be told, these season over posts are getting a bit annoying. It is still July and we have had 2 storms in the MDR this month. How many Julys have this?
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#57 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:45 pm

Alyono wrote:
ninel conde wrote:nothing impressive over africa. i wonder how many augusts had no named storms.


truth be told, these season over posts are getting a bit annoying. It is still July and we have had 2 storms in the MDR this month. How many Julys have this?


It looks like people are expecting all July's to be like 2005 which couldn't be further from the truth. July's have an average of less than 1 storm a year so development shouldn't really be expected in July but if we get to mid August and there's nothing on the horizon than it may be slow from there on out, but even if its slow from that point doesn't mean a deadly storm can't pop like an Andrew which happened in a slow season or even a Bob like storm in the NEUS

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#58 Postby southerngale » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:53 pm

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#59 Postby abajan » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:07 pm

If memory serves me correctly, back in the 1980s the islands of the eastern Caribbean had periods with very thick Sahara dust. There were days when one could hardly see the sun and we had to be constantly cleaning thick brown dust from our cars. I doubt this outbreak will be anything like that.
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#60 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:31 pm

It appears that the next wave rolling off Africa is moistening up the environment and that the worst of the outbreak has ended.
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