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#141 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:40 am

If there has been one constant mainstay so far this season, it has been the TUTT feature which has seemingly found a home so far this season in and around the Bahamas. We have seen TUTTs park itself over this vicinity, which greatly contributed to the demise of Chantal and Dorian. Now, we have another one currently just east of the Bahamas.

We won't get any formidable tropical cyclones developing past 60 degrees longitude anytime soon until the pattern changes and we see these TUTTs get displaced.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#142 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:26 am

:uarrow: Perfect set up for the scenario changing just as the season peaks and the MJO shifts positive.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#143 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:15 pm

I have a graphic here that probably doesn't apply to hurricane season at all, but I found it interesting since some have been comparing the start of this season to 2004 or 2009.

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Yes, the number of 90+ days up here in Cincy, and the fact that we seem to be done with the 90's for the year, putting us in 2004 and 2009 territory. Both 2004 and 2009 experienced el nino's, and right now we are heading into what looks to be a week la nina.

El Nino seasons tend to end early, La Nina tend to end late.

What does it all mean? :)
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#144 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:21 pm

northjaxpro wrote:If there has been one constant mainstay so far this season, it has been the TUTT feature which has seemingly found a home so far this season in and around the Bahamas. We have seen TUTTs park itself over this vicinity, which greatly contributed to the demise of Chantal and Dorian. Now, we have another one currently just east of the Bahamas.

We won't get any formidable tropical cyclones developing past 60 degrees longitude anytime soon until the pattern changes and we see these TUTTs get displaced.


GFS ensembles are predicting a considerable change in the pattern next week:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html
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#145 Postby ninel conde » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:37 pm

wxman57 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:If there has been one constant mainstay so far this season, it has been the TUTT feature which has seemingly found a home so far this season in and around the Bahamas. We have seen TUTTs park itself over this vicinity, which greatly contributed to the demise of Chantal and Dorian. Now, we have another one currently just east of the Bahamas.

We won't get any formidable tropical cyclones developing past 60 degrees longitude anytime soon until the pattern changes and we see these TUTTs get displaced.


GFS ensembles are predicting a considerable change in the pattern next week:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


if im reading that right its showing a rather large trof over the east?
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#146 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:40 pm

ninel conde wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:If there has been one constant mainstay so far this season, it has been the TUTT feature which has seemingly found a home so far this season in and around the Bahamas. We have seen TUTTs park itself over this vicinity, which greatly contributed to the demise of Chantal and Dorian. Now, we have another one currently just east of the Bahamas.

We won't get any formidable tropical cyclones developing past 60 degrees longitude anytime soon until the pattern changes and we see these TUTTs get displaced.


GFS ensembles are predicting a considerable change in the pattern next week:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


if im reading that right its showing a rather large trof over the east?


Trough is expected to move west, at least through wednesday of next week.

A piece from Miami AFD:

THE EXTENDED PORTION OF THE FORECAST APPEARS TO BE A QUIET PATTERN.
THE WEAKNESS IN THE UPPER RIDGE WILL DISAPPEAR AS IT FILLS IN FROM
THE WEST AND THE TROUGH MOVES WELL WEST OF THE AREA.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#147 Postby Bocadude85 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:13 pm

I am glad we are having a quiet August thus far as I will be in the Key's starting tomorrow and will hopefully be catching my limit of lobster everyday.
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#148 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:44 pm

tolakram wrote:I have a graphic here that probably doesn't apply to hurricane season at all, but I found it interesting since some have been comparing the start of this season to 2004 or 2009.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5144/7u36.jpg

Yes, the number of 90+ days up here in Cincy, and the fact that we seem to be done with the 90's for the year, putting us in 2004 and 2009 territory. Both 2004 and 2009 experienced el nino's, and right now we are heading into what looks to be a week la nina.

El Nino seasons tend to end early, La Nina tend to end late.

What does it all mean? :)

2004: Modoki El Niño
2009: (Full-Blown) El Niño
2013: Nuetral to weak La Niña

Just summing up the facts. :)
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#149 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:28 pm

wxman57 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:If there has been one constant mainstay so far this season, it has been the TUTT feature which has seemingly found a home so far this season in and around the Bahamas. We have seen TUTTs park itself over this vicinity, which greatly contributed to the demise of Chantal and Dorian. Now, we have another one currently just east of the Bahamas.

We won't get any formidable tropical cyclones developing past 60 degrees longitude anytime soon until the pattern changes and we see these TUTTs get displaced.


GFS ensembles are predicting a considerable change in the pattern next week:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


57 Mind elaborating a bit what you think of that pattern change?
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#150 Postby ninel conde » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:29 am

wxman57 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:If there has been one constant mainstay so far this season, it has been the TUTT feature which has seemingly found a home so far this season in and around the Bahamas. We have seen TUTTs park itself over this vicinity, which greatly contributed to the demise of Chantal and Dorian. Now, we have another one currently just east of the Bahamas.

We won't get any formidable tropical cyclones developing past 60 degrees longitude anytime soon until the pattern changes and we see these TUTTs get displaced.


GFS ensembles are predicting a considerable change in the pattern next week:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... opics.html


pattern change still on track?
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#151 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:48 am

New ECMWF seasonal forecast just came in. For the past few months, the Euro has forecast increasingly high pressure across the Gulf & Caribbean for August-October. The August forecast is for normal to below normal pressure there. Big reversal.
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#152 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:01 am

:uarrow:

That sounds pretty significant, do you have a graphic to share?
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#153 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:10 am

wxman57 wrote:New ECMWF seasonal forecast just came in. For the past few months, the Euro has forecast increasingly high pressure across the Gulf & Caribbean for August-October. The August forecast is for normal to below normal pressure there. Big reversal.


Geez, it's about time, some of us have been patiently waiting for the destruction and chaos to begin... :lol:
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#154 Postby SoupBone » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:17 am

wxman57 wrote:New ECMWF seasonal forecast just came in. For the past few months, the Euro has forecast increasingly high pressure across the Gulf & Caribbean for August-October. The August forecast is for normal to below normal pressure there. Big reversal.


So with such a drastic reversal, what makes it trustworthy now that it's showing favorable conditions for development? :)
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#155 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:30 am

PTrackerLA wrote::uarrow:

That sounds pretty significant, do you have a graphic to share?


Nope, you have to wait a few weeks for the graphic to be posted to their public website.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#156 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:31 am

SoupBone wrote:
wxman57 wrote:New ECMWF seasonal forecast just came in. For the past few months, the Euro has forecast increasingly high pressure across the Gulf & Caribbean for August-October. The August forecast is for normal to below normal pressure there. Big reversal.


So with such a drastic reversal, what makes it trustworthy now that it's showing favorable conditions for development? :)


It now matches the majority of global models in their seasonal forecasts. This is a good site for comparing seasonal forecasts:

https://www.wmolc.org/

Have to register, but it's free.
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#157 Postby hurricanetrack » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:32 am

Looks like all systems go for a big season. This should be interesting. Hope peeps are ready - especially in places like Florida where not a single hurricane has hit since 2005. That's almost 8 years for those of you in Rio Linda :-)
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#158 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:34 am

hurricanetrack wrote:Looks like all systems go for a big season. This should be interesting. Hope peeps are ready - especially in places like Florida where not a single hurricane has hit since 2005. That's almost 8 years for those of you in Rio Linda :-)


Meanwhile, I'm wondering when was the last storm-free August?
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#159 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:38 am

wxman57 wrote:
hurricanetrack wrote:Looks like all systems go for a big season. This should be interesting. Hope peeps are ready - especially in places like Florida where not a single hurricane has hit since 2005. That's almost 8 years for those of you in Rio Linda :-)


Meanwhile, I'm wondering when was the last storm-free August?


1914 AHS?
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#160 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:42 am

Yellow Evan wrote:
1914 AHS?


1914 had no satellites, so I would consider that dubious.
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