WPAC: UTOR - Post-Tropical

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#81 Postby Meow » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:43 pm

phwxenthusiast wrote:am i reading that right? JMA not expecting any intensification for the next 24 hours?! i have feeling they'll bust badly with that one... if there's any chance of it becoming a typhoon, i'd think it would be in the next 24 to 36 hours...

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I think JMA often underestimates the future intensity at their first TS advisory.
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#82 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:13 pm

Is IMD handling the advisories?

I fail to understand why no intensification is forecast? Does not match with the environment at all
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#83 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:37 pm

This whole situation doesn't make sense. I can't believe how wild the intensity forecasting has been. Unbelievable.

Alyono wrote:Is IMD handling the advisories?

I fail to understand why no intensification is forecast? Does not match with the environment at all
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#84 Postby vrif » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:39 pm

Alyono wrote:Is IMD handling the advisories?

I fail to understand why no intensification is forecast? Does not match with the environment at all


It feels like most agency is taking a back seat for this storm and won't send out advisories until the last minute.
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#85 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:43 pm

JTWC just issued its 2100 UTC forecast and the track continues to shift further to the south suggesting less of a threat to Hong Kong which agrees with this afternoon's model projections.
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#86 Postby Hurricane_Luis » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:03 pm

Panic over guys. The JTWC has woken up.

TS Utor Warning #5

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WTPN31 PGTW 092100
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL STORM 11W (UTOR) WARNING NR 005
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
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WARNING POSITION:
091800Z --- NEAR 13.5N 131.7E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 270 DEGREES AT 10 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 030 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 045 KT, GUSTS 055 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 13.5N 131.7E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
100600Z --- 13.8N 129.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 285 DEG/ 11 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
101800Z --- 14.3N 127.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 020 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
020 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 090 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
085 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
090 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 13 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
110600Z --- 15.2N 124.8E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 110 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
105 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 290 DEG/ 15 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
111800Z --- 16.1N 121.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 115 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
120 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 285 DEG/ 14 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
121800Z --- 17.6N 116.2E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 100 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
095 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
105 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 96 HR POSIT: 285 DEG/ 12 KTS
---
LONG RANGE OUTLOOK:
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96 HRS, VALID AT:
131800Z --- 18.8N 111.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
VECTOR TO 120 HR POSIT: 285 DEG/ 11 KTS
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120 HRS, VALID AT:
141800Z --- 19.7N 106.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
---
REMARKS:
092100Z POSITION NEAR 13.6N 131.2E.
TROPICAL STORM 11W (UTOR), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 626 NM EASTWARD
OF MANILA, PHILIPPINES, HAS TRACKED WESTWARD AT 10 KNOTS OVER THE
PAST SIX HOURS. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 091800Z IS 16
FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 100300Z, 100900Z, 101500Z AND 102100Z.//
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#87 Postby phwxenthusiast » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:32 pm

you guys are gonna love the latest SSMIS.. i'm at work so can't post pics but just go see it; it's shocking--we'll not really since this is WPAC... :D
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Tropical Storm

#88 Postby RobWESTPACWX » Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:06 pm

Hey Pat, glad to see you on here!

I just made a video update on this. First part of it just complaining about JMA.. so ya

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIzugj-Svo[/youtube]
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#89 Postby vrif » Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:47 pm

phwxenthusiast wrote:you guys are gonna love the latest SSMIS.. i'm at work so can't post pics but just go see it; it's shocking--we'll not really since this is WPAC... :D


Here it is. :D

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#90 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:33 pm

The WPac has the best looking 45kt tropical storms. :roll:
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Tropical Storm

#91 Postby dexterlabio » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:52 pm

Whoa waking up in the morning and this is what I get..the forecast track nudged closer to Manila and a rapidly consolidating cyclone. I hope it doesn't pull out a Cimaron or Chebi of 2006, their tracks are almost the same...


I really have to say that the Euro is having real issues in initializing a storm. All props to GFS, showing development of this system for over a week now.
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#92 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:53 pm

I know, right? Good grief! I have seen hurricanes that haven't looked this good. :oops:

RL3AO wrote:The WPac has the best looking 45kt tropical storms. :roll:
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#93 Postby dexterlabio » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:58 pm




Wow, is that a dot on the screen or is it...?
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#94 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:35 pm

not at all confident this clears Manila. This is south of the forecast tracks
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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Tropical Storm

#95 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:41 pm

00z Best Track up to 55kts.

11W UTOR 130810 0000 13.6N 130.5E WPAC 55 982
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#96 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:46 pm

Don't tell me this storm wants to have an eye. I'm thinking we could see some sort of typhoon, hopefully away from land.

Looks a bit like a galaxy though:

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Re: WPAC: UTOR - Tropical Storm

#97 Postby dexterlabio » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:21 pm

Jeez, latest IR imagery suggests possible formation of an eye. Really looks stronger than 45kts, even stronger than 35kts for 10-min average.
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#98 Postby vrif » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:53 pm

Looks like JMA increased the wind strength

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WTPQ20 RJTD 100000
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TS 1311 UTOR (1311)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 100000UTC 13.6N 130.6E GOOD
MOVE W 10KT
PRES 992HPA
MXWD 045KT
GUST 065KT
30KT 120NM
FORECAST
24HF 110000UTC 15.1N 127.2E 75NM 70%
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 965HPA
MXWD 070KT
GUST 100KT
48HF 120000UTC 17.4N 124.2E 110NM 70%
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 950HPA
MXWD 080KT
GUST 115KT
72HF 130000UTC 19.9N 120.2E 160NM 70%
MOVE WNW 10KT
PRES 940HPA
MXWD 085KT
GUST 120KT =

WTPQ30 RJTD 100000
RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE PROGNOSTIC REASONING
REASONING NO. 3 FOR TS 1311 UTOR (1311)
1.GENERAL COMMENTS
REASONING OF PROGNOSIS THIS TIME IS SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS ONE.
POSITION FORECAST IS MAINLY BASED ON NWP AND PERSISTENCY.
2.SYNOPTIC SITUATION
NOTHING PARTICULAR TO EXPLAIN.
3.MOTION FORECAST
POSITION ACCURACY AT 100000 UTC IS GOOD.
TS WILL MOVE AT THE SAME SPEED FOR THE NEXT 72 HOURS.
TS WILL MOVE WEST FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS THEN MOVE TO WEST-NORTHWEST.
4.INTENSITY FORECAST
TS WILL BE GRADED UP TO TY WITHIN 24 HOURS.
TS WILL DEVELOP BECAUSE CYCLONE WILL STAY IN HIGH SST AREA.
FI-NUMBER WILL BE 4.5 AFTER 24 HOURS.=
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#99 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:03 pm

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#100 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:07 pm

How in the world do they have this missing the Philippines? So it is tracking south of every forecast that has LANDFALL in the Philippines, so JMA has this going NORTH of the Philippines?

Intensity forecast, however, is more reasonable. Still may be on the low side given the intensification
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