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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#661 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:56 pm

Sounds to me like the main weather will be along the N. Central GOM not related to 92L. IMO :roll:
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#662 Postby gatorcane » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:57 pm

Dean I see what you think might be an LLC moving NNW off the Northern coast of the Yucatan but I don't think that is a low-level center.

If this is going to develop, it's that naked swirl in the BOC. Looks like it has a decent chance but not if something tries to get going north in the Gulf. Conditions are not good for development there. The swirl has alot of spin and convection is not too far off to the NE that may start to wrap more.

A threat to Mexico, maybe extreme Southern Texas, but probably more rain than anything else.

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#663 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:58 pm

Is this not all odd or what?
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#664 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:02 pm

If you read the TWO from 2pm it still sounds like the NHC is not sold on 92L moving W or WNW in the long term. IMO
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#665 Postby Portastorm » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:09 pm

Stormcenter wrote:If you read the TWO from 2pm it still sounds like the NHC is not sold on 92L moving W or WNW in the long term. IMO


It's no different than what they mentioned in this morning's TWO. And considering that as recent as last night they didn't even reference the potential of a system moving west or west-northwest, I think it's safe to say they have not been "sold" on any solution just yet. And why should they be? Way too much uncertainty at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#666 Postby MGC » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:20 pm

NWS New Orleans thinks a wake depression is on the way? We had one come through here in the spring and it was really gusty for several hours....MGC
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#667 Postby wxman57 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:21 pm

I'm not "sold" on either the WNW track or the north track yet. It's a toss-up. If it goes north it'll hit a wall of shear north of 26N associated with the trof digging into the Gulf over the weekend. A good bit of shear to the WNW, too.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... _watl.html
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#668 Postby beoumont » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:22 pm

It don't come easy.

It's not 2004.
It is not 2005.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#669 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:30 pm

Very interesting. This was from 21 hours ago:

https://twitter.com/wxbrad/status/36811 ... 49/photo/1

@wxbrad 21h
.@NHCDirector Are we experimenting with tracks for #Invest areas or was this a internal test sent out? Curious.

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.@wxbrad This year NHC is experimenting in house with track/intensity forecasts for disturbances with high chance of formation.
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#670 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:40 pm

All centers are now stacked over the system. Just waiting on some convection to pop near the center.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#671 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:45 pm

18z Best Track.

AL, 92, 2013081618, , BEST, 0, 215N, 915W, 25, 1009, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#672 Postby Bailey1777 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:50 pm

same coordinaes i had it at about 4 hours ago.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#673 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:59 pm

not moving much
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#674 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:04 pm

At all.

ROCK wrote:not moving much
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#675 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:13 pm

The ULL was impeding it's progress. The path North was blocked.
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#676 Postby Calin1171 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:19 pm

Long time lurker here - finally deciding to ask a question... :oops:

If the "wake depression" the NWS out of New Orleans mentions does head towards the LA coast, what kind of wind velocity would be expected? I see mention of rainfall events, but nothing about wind speeds.
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#677 Postby HouTXmetro » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:20 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:All centers are now stacked over the system. Just waiting on some convection to pop near the center.


Not at all, you can Clearly see the LLC West of the NW Tip of the Yucatan on Visible Loop.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... height=480

Meanwhile the ULL is still NNW of the NW tip of the Yucatan on the Water Vapor Loop.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-wv.html
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#678 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:31 pm

500 mb vorticity, 700 mb vorticity, 850 mb vorticity - as I said, fairly well stacked

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

HouTXmetro wrote:
Not at all, you can Clearly see the LLC West of the NW Tip of the Yucatan on Visible Loop.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... height=480

Meanwhile the ULL is still NNW of the NW tip of the Yucatan on the Water Vapor Loop.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-wv.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#679 Postby CaneCurious » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:32 pm

JonathanBelles wrote:Very interesting. This was from 21 hours ago:

https://twitter.com/wxbrad/status/36811 ... 49/photo/1

@wxbrad 21h
.@NHCDirector Are we experimenting with tracks for #Invest areas or was this a internal test sent out? Curious.

@NHCDirector 2m
.@wxbrad This year NHC is experimenting in house with track/intensity forecasts for disturbances with high chance of formation.

Do we know what this is about? :eek:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#680 Postby 'CaneFreak » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:34 pm

Nothing out of the ordinary. 25 or 30 mph tops.

Calin1171 wrote:Long time lurker here - finally deciding to ask a question... :oops:

If the "wake depression" the NWS out of New Orleans mentions does head towards the LA coast, what kind of wind velocity would be expected? I see mention of rainfall events, but nothing about wind speeds.
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