Tropical Wave just off African Coast (Is Invest 94L)
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Disturbed Weather in West Africa
Really nice rotation and increasing its thunderstorm activity as it prepares to emerge from Africa
http://tropicaltidbits.com/satellite/images/eatl_ir.gif
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
cycloneye wrote:Saved image at 14:00 UTC. Notice the big circulation around 10.5N just behind the convection.
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2ekkxl0.jpg
Is that circulation surface-based or upper-level? Seems like an odd location, I'm also noticing the image is from early afternoon in West Africa and it's just firing up two or three individual thunderstorms.
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
somethingfunny wrote:cycloneye wrote:Saved image at 14:00 UTC. Notice the big circulation around 10.5N just behind the convection.
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2ekkxl0.jpg
Is that circulation surface-based or upper-level? Seems like an odd location, I'm also noticing the image is from early afternoon in West Africa and it's just firing up two or three individual thunderstorms.
Here is the saved image at 21:00 UTC. Notice the circulation is filled with convection.

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The area emerging off the coast now is definitely a broad rotation though perhaps not closed off. Its' convection seems to be waning as it emerges, as more convection (maybe diurnal) blossoms on the second circulation, in southern Mali. It will be interesting to see how these competing circulations interact; any tropical development would likely be slow.
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
This system ends up near Bermuda on the 18z GFS. What is down there is another story.



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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
Large impressive wave..good bet for out next named storm in a few days.




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The big question is will it stay far enough south and continue on a westward track a some time to be able to avoid to cooler SST's and stable air, or will it take a very similar track as Erin and head WNW right into the cooler SST's and stable air? If it develops quickly like Erin did I would assume it would take the same kind of track as Erin.
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
SFLcane wrote:Large impressive wave..good bet for out next named storm in a few days.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/satellit ... atl_ir.gif
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/satellit ... tl_vis.gif
Wow! What a big circulation, could this help it fight off some of the unfavorable conditions like stable air in it's life?
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
Important to note that this system is 3-4 degrees more south in latitude than the wave that spawned Erin emerged.
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The main one is the one to the southeast, could make argument for a TD already. GFS is taking it to the west and then Northwest out to sea.
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa
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Looks to be good for code yellow @ 8am.

Looks to be good for code yellow @ 8am.
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it will have alot of dry air issues behind erin.
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/s ... vmid&time=
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/s ... vmid&time=
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa (Pouch 23L)
It has been designated pouch 23L by the investigation group.
P23L
10N, 6W
700 hPa
ECMWF: Very distinct pouch for the first day while over west Africa. As P23L leaves Africa, it becomes elongated SW-NE in the monsoonal fashion, with the northeastern end eventually becoming the dominant portion and depicted as a distinct pouch again at 84 hours.
GFS: Distinct pouch the entire five days. Tracks a bit north of west, but not as much as ECMWF. GFS does not show as much SW-NE monsoonal elongation as in ECMWF; however, the pouch center is erratic on Days 4-5.
UKMET: Distinct, smooth track. Faster than EMCWF and GFS. Also gains latitude.
http://www.met.nps.edu/~mtmontgo/storms2013/P23L.html
P23L
10N, 6W
700 hPa
ECMWF: Very distinct pouch for the first day while over west Africa. As P23L leaves Africa, it becomes elongated SW-NE in the monsoonal fashion, with the northeastern end eventually becoming the dominant portion and depicted as a distinct pouch again at 84 hours.
GFS: Distinct pouch the entire five days. Tracks a bit north of west, but not as much as ECMWF. GFS does not show as much SW-NE monsoonal elongation as in ECMWF; however, the pouch center is erratic on Days 4-5.
UKMET: Distinct, smooth track. Faster than EMCWF and GFS. Also gains latitude.
http://www.met.nps.edu/~mtmontgo/storms2013/P23L.html
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa (Pouch 23L)
Wouldn't it be East Atlantic, now 
CMC shows interesting scenario for this wave

But then again, it's the CMC

CMC shows interesting scenario for this wave

But then again, it's the CMC

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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa (Pouch 23L)
HurricaneDREW92 wrote:Wouldn't it be East Atlantic, now
CMC shows interesting scenario for this wave
But then again, it's the CMC
Yeah, surely an optimistic scenario on this run. Given its location much souther than the previous one, it's always suspcious. Plenty of time to watch it

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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa (Pouch 23L)
Gustywind wrote:HurricaneDREW92 wrote:Wouldn't it be East Atlantic, now
CMC shows interesting scenario for this wave
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2724/kth8.jpg
But then again, it's the CMC
Yeah, surely an optimistic scenario on this run. Given its location much souther than the previous one, it's always suspcious. Plenty of time to watch it, wait and see.
The GFS has almost been just as robust so it does bear watching in the long run
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Re: Disturbed Weather in West Africa (Pouch 23L)
Hurricaneman wrote:Gustywind wrote:HurricaneDREW92 wrote:Wouldn't it be East Atlantic, now
CMC shows interesting scenario for this wave
http://imageshack.us/a/img15/2724/kth8.jpg
But then again, it's the CMC
Yeah, surely an optimistic scenario on this run. Given its location much souther than the previous one, it's always suspcious. Plenty of time to watch it, wait and see.
The GFS has almost been just as robust so it does bear watching in the long run
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Far too early out but this reminds me of Irene in 2011. The date And potential track. Disclaimer below.
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Re: Tropical Wave just off African Coast (Pouch 23L)
Introduced as a wave with low pressure (South of 10N) at 18z analysis.


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