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#301 Postby Alyono » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:20 am

My thoughts...


maybe a 2001 type season... but nothing hyperactive at this point

still could have several hurricanes
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#302 Postby Fego » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:28 am

Hyperstorm wrote:I can't believe the amount of people that are declaring this entire season a non-entity.

Did you know that this is JUST the beginning of the ramp-up? Did you know that September is the busiest month? Did you know that there have been plenty of seasons where August was average to below average and September ended up being a record-breaker?

Remember that we do NOT have an El Niño this year. This factor is very much the MAIN factor that precludes development in seasons. There's been LOTS of neutral years that didn't really get going until September. One strong storm forming early in the season does not guarantee a strong season, the same way that lots of weak systems early on DO NOT indicate the season will be weak.

The Atlantic tropics are known to do a 180 degree turn in 2-3 days time. I've seen this plenty of times. Even if we don't see an above-average August, I will fear for September. Mark my words.


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#303 Postby SouthFloridian92 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:39 am

For some reason, I find it hilarious that the season has been so quiet. I find myself laughing when I read these threads.
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#304 Postby MGC » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:52 am

I for one is starting to have my doubts that my forecast numbers are going to be met. We will have to have an hyperactive next couple of months...possible but I doubt it......MGC
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#305 Postby caneman » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:57 am

I remember that year well. Gabrielle hit us I believe the day after 9/11. Was Gabrielle in fact upgraded to a Hurricane? The link show it as a 80 mph Hurricane. At the time - it was listed as a 70 mph T.S.
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#306 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:03 am

Gabrielle was something because it came right after 9-11 and was like an addition to the shock. I remember tracking it. It started as hovering low pressure over west Florida that migrated out over the Gulf, developed, and turned back around towards us. I remember the blue lightning of transformer pops and the giant wind surges followed by lapses one after the other. That was a tree-shaker here mostly.


That thunderstorm complex west of Key West looks like it has a tiny spin.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#307 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:35 am

Here is what Dr Jeff Masters has to say about the 2013 Atlantic season so far and how he sees things in the next few weeks.

We've had five named storms so far in the Atlantic this year, which is more that average for this point in the season. Usually, the fifth named storm does not arrive until August 31. However, we are well behind average for the arrival of the season's first hurricane, which usually occurs by August 10. The season's second hurricane usually arrives by August 28. It is questionable if we will see the season's first hurricane by that date, given the current lack of activity, the dry air moving across the Tropical Atlantic, and the lack of model predictions for tropical storm formation this week. Still, I'm not willing to downgrade the seasonal forecasts for above-average activity yet, as we are still three weeks away from the usual September 10 peak in activity, and the Atlantic is capable of getting very active in a hurry.
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#308 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:39 am

Wow, I didn't realize that we are well behind average of the season's first hurricane. That's interesting. I agree with him though that we don't want to downgrade the forecasted numbers, quite yet. Although I think if we get no additional storms in the next week and 1/2 , THEN it will be time......We'll see.....
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#309 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:14 pm

Alyono wrote:My thoughts...


maybe a 2001 type season... but nothing hyperactive at this point

still could have several hurricanes



Very good analog year, IMO, regarding how that season also had dry stable air in the Atlantic.
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#310 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:02 pm

Africa seems to be lacking waves/disturbances looking at the sat images from the continent today, not what you would expect as we head into late August. Still plenty of time for things to change as we head towards the peak of Sept 10th.

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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#311 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:09 pm

This is the Preliminary Global Hazards and Benefits Outlook from NOAA for this and the upcoming week. They think things may start to change by next week in the MDR in terms of tropical cyclone activity.

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#312 Postby RainbowAppleJackDash » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:12 pm

HurricaneMaster_PR wrote:This is the Preliminary Global Hazards and Benefits Outlook from NOAA for this and the upcoming week. They think things may start to change by next week in the MDR in terms of tropical cyclone activity.

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And that's why we'll see a Humberto come the 31st. BUT...
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#313 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:59 pm

I was reading CSU aug. 15-31 update. They said we are going in phase 1-2 of the MJO. I have no idea what the heck that means but it's suppose to be a more favorable enviroment in the tropics. So far I haven't seen that occuring. Anyone like to elaborate on that subject. :idea:
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Re: ENSO: Models Mid August update

#314 Postby ninel conde » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:43 pm

HURRICANELONNY wrote:I was reading CSU aug. 15-31 update. They said we are going in phase 1-2 of the MJO. I have no idea what the heck that means but it's suppose to be a more favorable enviroment in the tropics. So far I haven't seen that occuring. Anyone like to elaborate on that subject. :idea:


i dont see it either
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#315 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:45 pm

HURRICANELONNY wrote:I was reading CSU aug. 15-31 update. They said we are going in phase 1-2 of the MJO. I have no idea what the heck that means but it's suppose to be a more favorable enviroment in the tropics. So far I haven't seen that occuring. Anyone like to elaborate on that subject. :idea:

The MJO, or Madden-Julian Oscillation, is a wave of either enhanced lift and precipitation -- the upward pulse -- or decreased lift and sinking air -- the downward pulse -- that travels across the globe every month or so. It [the upward pulse] is a good kicker for tropical cyclone development because it suppresses stable air and lowers pressures. Specific regions of the world are broken into Octants -- 2 and 3 denote the Indian Ocean, 4 and 5 denote the Maritime Continent, 6 and 7 denote the West Pacific, and, most importantly, Octants 8 and 1 denote the East Pacific and Atlantic. Currently, a downward pulse of the MJO is located across the Atlantic...and has been for most of this season. However, an upward pulse of the MJO is currently amplifying in the West Pacific and aiding in the development of the monsoonal monster otherwise known as Tropical Storm Trami. This MJO pulse will be propagating eastward over the next few days, and should begin to have an impact on the West Atlantic by early next week. It will encompass the central and eastern Atlantic, as well as Africa, for the peak of the season. This is a VERY favorable setup for activity in the Atlantic.

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We're only 1 or 2 dud waves away from a period during which almost every strong wave off Africa should try to develop. Big September coming.
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#316 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:04 pm

I think CSU thought the timing of the moist MJO would be now. I guess it's hard to figure the timing or magnitude of these pulses as they move around the earth. Look out Sept. if it verifies. :eek:
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#317 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:55 pm

So I guess forecasters are banking big on September?
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#318 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:57 pm

I think it should be stated that SAL is not the issue this year. There have been outbreaks, yes, but with a weaker trade wind belt and moist flow off Africa, the issue seems to be strictly stable air. And that stable air is likely due to two reasons...the expansive high we've seen this season and the lack of a substantial upward MJO pulse. Once we get the latter next week, stable air should be less of an issue.
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#319 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:21 pm

We should have a poll on how many storms will form in September.

I'm going all in and saying we break a record with 9 named storms - including 5 hurricanes and 2 majors.

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#320 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:44 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:We should have a poll on how many storms will form in September.

I'm going all in and saying we break a record with 9 named storms - including 5 hurricanes and 2 majors.

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Poll for September will be up on Saturday 24th so get ready to vote. :)
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