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#21 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:42 am

Javlin wrote:To close to land.


Area of lowest surface pressure is currently in the central to east central Gulf where some vorticity has increased this morning.

I'm not saying this will develop, it does bear watching if convection persists and grows out over the central and east central Gulf.
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#22 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:44 am

caneman wrote:Since you are here WXMN57. Do you see things changing in the tropics soon? IF so, why and how?


August 2014? There ARE signs that the at least the Gulf/Caribbean will become more favorable for development by this time next week. Models don't show any development though.
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#23 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:45 am

As wxman57 pointed out this is the northern extent of a TWave and headed westward. Not out of the question that you could get a quick developer out of this if the convection deepens and takes off. Going to be moving right over 30C + SST's.
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#24 Postby ninel conde » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:45 am

wxman57 wrote:
caneman wrote:Since you are here WXMN57. Do you see things changing in the tropics soon? IF so, why and how?


August 2014?


still 9/6/3 for the rest of the season?
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#25 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:48 am

A lower pressure area certainly passed this buoy west of Naples, FL earlier this morning.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42003
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Re: Eastern Gulf...

#26 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:51 am

ninel conde wrote:still 9/6/3 for the rest of the season?


As I said yesterday, 9/6/3 is impossible. 9/4/3 is possible. We're already had 5 named storms that were not hurricanes. I think we could see 12-14 named storms, still.
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#27 Postby ninel conde » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:06 am

wxman57 wrote:
ninel conde wrote:still 9/6/3 for the rest of the season?


As I said yesterday, 9/6/3 is impossible. 9/4/3 is possible. We're already had 5 named storms that were not hurricanes. I think we could see 12-14 named storms, still.


sorry, i thought you said that you were going with 14/6/3 for the season now which would be 9/6/3 for the rest of the season.
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Re: Eastern Gulf...

#28 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:23 am

Checking surface reports in the eastern Gulf, I can identify a surface trof (inverted) along 87W. Pressures in the area of squalls are approaching 1019mb. Not very low. Should keep an eye on the storms for any signs of consolidation and persistence.
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#29 Postby hurricanekid416 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:27 am

Where is this thing going towards Texas or Florida
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#30 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:29 am

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Re: Eastern Gulf...

#31 Postby Stormlover2012 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:31 am

Texas
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#32 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:32 am

hurricanekid416 wrote:Where is this thing going towards Texas or Florida



doesnt look like its in a hurry to move anywhere...
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#33 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:35 am

I think if it persists it may be lemoned this evening and maybe if it maintains until tomorrow it may be invested

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#34 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:37 am

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Re: Eastern Gulf...

#35 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:39 am

Saved shear analysis.

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#36 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:42 am

pressures don't seem to be falling, and are rising if anything.
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#37 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:39 pm

Hammy wrote:pressures don't seem to be falling, and are rising if anything.


I noticed that. Pressures rose a bit in the last few hours. 12Z GFS moves the vorticity into the TX coast by sunrise on Saturday. I see NHC mentioned it on the new outlook. 10% chance. Probably about right. Should weaken as it progresses westward, at least that's what the GFS does with the vorticity center over the next 48 hrs.
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Re: Eastern Gulf...

#38 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:43 pm

ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT THU AUG 22 2013

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. DISORGANIZED CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS...AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE
NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAK LOW PRESSURE
TROUGH. SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EXPECTED WHILE THE TROUGH
MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS
SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...
OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT FIVE DAYS.

FIVE-DAY FORMATION PROBABILITIES ARE EXPERIMENTAL IN 2013. COMMENTS
ON THE EXPERIMENTAL FORECASTS CAN BE PROVIDED AT...

HTTP://WWW.NWS.NOAA.GOV/SURVEY/NWS-SURVEY.PHP?CODE=ETWO

FORECASTER PASCH
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Re: Eastern Gulf (10%/10%)

#39 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:58 pm

I see some mid level rotation...if you speed the loop up...

go to the 1KM view and animate 10 frames.

http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html
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#40 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:08 pm

Here's an interesting loop of the NE GOM disturbance.


http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/satellite/d ... uration=12
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