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#661 Postby RL3AO » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:31 am

Operational ACE in August of 1.75

The levels of inactivity is starting to become as intriguing as tracking an actual storm.
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#662 Postby Ntxw » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:37 am

:uarrow: We continue the fall to 25% of normal ACE. Will we fall below 20% nearing the peak of Hurricane season? It's possible with no realistic large storm shown by models within the next 5 days. Mind boggling.
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#663 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:38 am

ninel conde wrote:instability spiked and the MJO is here and absolutely nothing.



Actually this is not true yet. Current MJO analysis shows it still stuck near the EPAC.

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Nothing much will change, in my opinion, until this starts to make a move.
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#664 Postby ninel conde » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:30 am

maybe it wont move
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#665 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:50 am

I'd laugh at this point if we can get all the way to October with nothing much, then have a November monster or two wreck everything...
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#666 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:58 am

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Look at the concentration of shear in the MDR, like a brick wall (split jet stream pattern?)

Given that, any development would have to likely take place in the Gulf or the subtropical Atlantic. Most likely, from non-tropical sources, since tropical waves are being torn apart before they can get there, or are stuck on the shear axis.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#667 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 31, 2013 10:01 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Image

Look at the concentration of shear in the MDR, like a brick wall (split jet stream pattern?)

Given that, any development would have to likely take place in the Gulf or the subtropical Atlantic. Most likely, from non-tropical sources, since tropical waves are being torn apart before they can get there, or are stuck on the shear axis.


Looking at this and if one didn't look at the ENSO you would think it was an El Nino with the shear pattern currently

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#668 Postby ninel conde » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:04 pm

very el nino like
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#669 Postby HurricaneRyan » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:51 pm

This season could always pull out an Opal.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#670 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:58 pm

Watched Bastard's video this morning. If he is right about the pattern in mid-September, and I think he is close, the potential for multiple continental hits in the next few weeks would be there. What happens is a strong trough comes into the SE US but it is transient. As it lifts out, strong ridging builds over top in eastern Canada (his Newfoundland Wheel). IMHO, this has been telegraphed by the warm ssta's off New England and eastern Canada, so the pattern reversal in that region should happen. What will be particularly important is for how long that pattern establishes itself. If it is a week and done, it's not going to be that big of a deal. But if it is semi-permanent (say 3ish or more weeks) then the SE US coast would be in danger. Obviously there are no guarantees that anything tropical would be on the map. So all this has to be taken with a grain of salt. But if the energy is there, my ideas of ultimately a season with a spray of 3 hits between MS and NC followed by eroding of the Atlantic ridge (fronts and tropics chipping it away) and a potential impact for Bermuda/Eastern Canada could be close. Everyone should follow the WPAC as the ridge teleconnections this year have been strong. If there are any named storms there after the current recurve around western Japan, follow the tracks on the jtwc site for clues 6-10 days following.

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#671 Postby Ntxw » Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:07 pm

I think the pattern shift for less recurves is well documented by the experts and pro mets (think wxman57 and bastardi). The million dollar question is can we get a storm to go instead of being squashed, that has been the problem with these waves. Step 1 is to get a storm before we worry about hits to the US.
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#672 Postby ninel conde » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:14 pm

joe bastardi is making a MAJOR tropical post tonight. stay tuned!!

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MJO: what suppresses in August may not in September.. Will explain tonight. Have to eat with family first. In RI with all my relatives
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Doing major post tonight or tomorrow morning on not only global tropic dry air, but cool indian ocean and MJO as causes. MJO big part too
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Everyone jumping on dry air bandwagon which http://Weatherbell.com followers know has been my mantra so far. Long term still may be nasty
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#673 Postby Ptarmigan » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:53 pm

psyclone wrote:Interesting to note that those late blooming seasons produced some whopper storms.


I notice that late blooming seasons are very dangerous and deadly.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#674 Postby Cyclenall » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:49 pm

cycloneye wrote:This tweet by NHC forecaster Blake says it all.

Eric Blake ‏@EricBlake12 8h
@RyanMaue well on our way to at least the 4th latest 1st hurricane of the Atlc season. No MH in WHemi latest since 81. Ugly

That's a good tweet, does sum things up. I never thought of the Western Hemisphere as being completely major-free but the Epac and Atlantic are really the only basins in there so its the same. The tweet also confirms my date of 1981 as being the last time the WHemi was major free at this point. Ugly is an understatement, you could also use tropical-soul-crushing.

RL3AO wrote:Operational ACE in August of 1.75

The levels of inactivity is starting to become as intriguing as tracking an actual storm.

Agreed. Its already going to be a key feature of study this year re: August ACE during cool-neutral conditions. 1997 had no TC's during August but 2 hurricanes in July...5 named storms up to this point. What will be incredibly puzzling to researchers is why the African wave train was so active and potent in late June and parts of July and TC's were forming in the deep tropics...indicative every time of huge activity later in the season, only to have nothing of the sort afterwards. I don't know if this has ever happened before.

HurricaneRyan wrote:This season could always pull out an Opal.

I'm drawing :?: :?: :?: on this. Opal occurred during the 1995 hurricane season which is nothing compared to this one. Opal can occur in any non-El Nino season. Maybe this November will have 10X the ACE of the record holder for November ACE, that type of back-log could occur. I question however the realistic possibly of a US major hurricane landfall during November. Cuba? Sure.
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#675 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:15 pm

My thoughts so far, as we near the half way point, it has frankly sucked. It has been extremely boring, with not even any well defined fish to track.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#676 Postby HurricaneBill » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:25 pm

Hasn't the WPAC been below normal in terms of ACE this season? I wonder if this could be like 1977. That year was rather inactive in the Atlantic, EPAC, and WPAC. However, the Atlantic did produce a Category 5 hurricane in the Gulf. (Hurricane Anita)
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#677 Postby HurricaneRyan » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:49 pm

Well we know one thing. The chances of a hurricane are bigger than Miley Cyrus's butt
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#678 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:06 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:Well we know one thing. The chances of a hurricane are bigger than Miley Cyrus's butt


Indeed, what a revolting, degenerate, individual. :spam:
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#679 Postby gigabite » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:10 pm

Although an 1992 Andrew is always in the cards, I am not sure the total storm count is going to make it to 15.
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Re: Thoughts on activity as heart of season nears

#680 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:11 pm

Ok,let's not get derailed by off topic things and stay on topic,thanks.
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