ATL: GABRIELLE - Remnants - Discussion

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#1121 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:58 pm

gatorcane wrote:Wow this convection keeps expanding with the system to Gabrielle's east.. :eek:

Stay safe Cycloneye, Gustywind, Msbee, and all in those the islands. Lot's of nasty weather on the way for you all:

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#1122 Postby HurriGuy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:59 pm

Anyone feel like chiming in on the blob of dry air to the north sinking south? Will this be a suppressing factor? Or can this TS pull all the convection together and shield itself off?
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#1123 Postby HurriGuy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:01 pm

pgoss11 wrote:I could be wrong but it looks like Gabrielle could make landfall on PR?
Not an official forecast.


Where NHC has the center plotted I would think no landfall any time soon. Especially at its near stationary speed.
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#1124 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 pm

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pgoss11 wrote:I could be wrong but it looks like Gabrielle could make landfall on PR?
Not an official forecast.


Where NHC has the center plotted I would think no landfall any time soon. Especially at its near stationary speed.



The nhc position and plot is quiet likely off ... the mona passage seems a little off. likely right over PR do to the interaction between it and the energy to the NE . this of course comes from simple conversion.. the convection under little shear is likely going to be the place a center would consolidate.. looking a overlays and surface as well as recon before it left.. leads to no real indication of a center that far to the sw of the convection.. we will see however overnight..
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#1125 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:06 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
HurriGuy wrote:
pgoss11 wrote:I could be wrong but it looks like Gabrielle could make landfall on PR?
Not an official forecast.


Where NHC has the center plotted I would think no landfall any time soon. Especially at its near stationary speed.



The nhc position and plot is quiet likely off ... the mona passage seems a little off. likely right over PR do to the interaction between it and the energy to the NE .


So, do you think the NNW movement could continue as a result of the interaction?
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#1126 Postby NDG » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:06 pm

Alyono wrote:yet again the John Hope Rule fails

yet another TC forming in the east Caribbean. This is 13 since 2003



I knew you were going to bring this up to people who were arguing with you the last couple of days regarding this subject, lol.
I hope they understand that John Hope's rule only applies at certain times of the year and or certain years.
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#1127 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:06 pm

RAL update:

At 0000 UTC, 05 September 2013, TROPICAL STORM GABRIELLE (AL07) was located in the North Atlantic basin at 16.7°N and 66.3°W. The current intensity was 35 kt and the center was moving at 6 kt at a bearing of 325 degrees. The minimum central pressure was 1008 mb

http://www.ral.ucar.edu/guidance/realtime/plots/northatlantic/2013/al072013/
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#1128 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:07 pm

If the center is at 17.4N 66.2W (which seems to be where it is looking at radar), how would that change the future of TD7/Gabrielle? That is about 50 miles north of the 8 pm advisory location.
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#1129 Postby pgoss11 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:07 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
HurriGuy wrote:
pgoss11 wrote:I could be wrong but it looks like Gabrielle could make landfall on PR?
Not an official forecast.


Where NHC has the center plotted I would think no landfall any time soon. Especially at its near stationary speed.



The nhc position and plot is quiet likely off ... the mona passage seems a little off. likely right over PR do to the interaction between it and the energy to the NE .


It does look like it will almost be drawn in over PR due to the interaction of the system to the NE.
Just an observation, not a forecast.
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#1130 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:12 pm

NDG wrote:
Alyono wrote:yet again the John Hope Rule fails

yet another TC forming in the east Caribbean. This is 13 since 2003



I knew you were going to bring this up to people who were arguing with you the last couple of days regarding this subject, lol.
I hope they understand that John Hope's rule only applies at certain times of the year and or certain years.


Yeah please let the guy rest in peace. He's been quoted twice in the last 24 hours on here as saying things he never said. He's being seriously misquoted.
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#1131 Postby ozonepete » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:13 pm

HurriGuy wrote:Anyone feel like chiming in on the blob of dry air to the north sinking south? Will this be a suppressing factor? Or can this TS pull all the convection together and shield itself off?


So far it's the latter. No indications yet that this will be a factor, especially since at mid-levels the RH is no longer that low in that region and moistening as we go forward in time.
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#1132 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:17 pm

you know what though that is one large area of deep convection to the east and NE.. if does not die out overnight its going to cause serious energy displacement. its nearly 4 to 6x the size of this system.
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#1133 Postby MaineWeatherNut » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:18 pm

Well on the latest radar loops you can see the strongest storms firing in a circular formation (about 50% closed) around where the Eye wall will form as it strengthens.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1134 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:26 pm

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#1135 Postby pgoss11 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:28 pm

That system to the NE is just enormous..and them are some huge thunderstorms!!
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#1136 Postby KatDaddy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:29 pm

ATCF now has 07L.GABRIELLE. TD 7 upgrade to TS Gabrielle coming soon. Lots of flooding rains for Puerto Rico the next 24 hours.
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#1137 Postby HurriGuy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:29 pm

There is something that still just doesn't look right about this system. The wave to the east is really throwing me off.
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Re: ATL: SEVEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#1138 Postby ROCK » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:31 pm

maybe the models were not that far off with developing the east low and leaving behind the west.....IDK....uncharted territory here. The mass to the NE looks very stout.
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#1139 Postby HurriGuy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:32 pm

I guess its just the overall size of TS Gab. in reference to the massive wave that is puzzling me.
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#1140 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:34 pm

It's going to be interesting to watch what comes out of these two systems interacting. Can't recall I have seen this type of setup in the Atlantic before.
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