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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#101 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:35 am

now we wait for the curveball the models typically throw out at this time. We are talking 6-7 days from now.....
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#102 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:41 am

Fair enough. I agree it is a fairly good model for the US's overall synoptic pattern.

ROCK wrote:Oh I agree....the NAM sucks in the tropics but it does dam good for CONUS weather with trof and ridge placement. The only reason I show it... :D
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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#103 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:47 am

All models are indicating fairly strong wind shear along the TX coast and out across the NW Gulf through next weekend. Any storm moving north of 21N-22N would be encountering significantly stronger wind shear.
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#104 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:07 am

The 12zGFS has a moderate tropical storm from this in the BOC

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#105 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:13 am

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... atl_45.png

significantly up the coast than prior runs at 132hr..... :wink: and a sub 1000....nice
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#106 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:15 am

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... atl_45.png

here are the 500MB heights at 132hr...weaker ridging than earlier runs and we all know how the GFS over does ridging....


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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#107 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:21 am

wxman57 wrote:All models are indicating fairly strong wind shear along the TX coast and out across the NW Gulf through next weekend. Any storm moving north of 21N-22N would be encountering significantly stronger wind shear.


I dont know how much stock I put in wind shear models 7 days out....but thats just my opinion.
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#108 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:24 am

BAM!!! there is your high sliding over to the east as typical for a mid- Sept pattern....

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... atl_54.png


SW LA to STX still a possibility IMO....


you can see how the flow changes....weakness is there....stronger system more north...


http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... atl_58.png
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#109 Postby baytownwx » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:28 am

:uarrow: :uarrow:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the GFS typically breaks brakes down ridging to fast and the Euro typically shows more robust ridging. A solution in between is what I usually look at.
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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#110 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:30 am

baytownwx wrote::uarrow: :uarrow:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the GFS typically breaks brakes down ridging to fast and the Euro typically shows more robust ridging. A solution in between is what I usually look at.



yes...that is correct....
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#111 Postby caneman » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:30 am

baytownwx wrote::uarrow: :uarrow:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the GFS typically breaks brakes down ridging to fast and the Euro typically shows more robust ridging. A solution in between is what I usually look at.


You are correct.
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#112 Postby caneman » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:31 am

caneman wrote:
baytownwx wrote::uarrow: :uarrow:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought the GFS typically breaks brakes down ridging to fast and the Euro typically shows more robust ridging. A solution in between is what I usually look at.


You are correct.


Euro left bias and GFS right bias
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#113 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:35 am

12 CMC coming out...want to see how it deal with intensity....66hr...forming this at the tip of the Yucatan rather than in the BOC as others have.

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... atl_12.png
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#114 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:42 am

exactly you can't trust shear runs when its next weekend and etc, all my weather buddies would even tell me that!!
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#115 Postby Rgv20 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:55 am

12zCMC has it going to the Tampico area in 5 days..

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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#116 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:46 pm

2 PM.

A BROAD AREA OF LOW PRESSURE COULD FORM OVER THE BAY OF CAMPECHE OR
THE EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN GULF OF MEXICO IN A FEW DAYS...AND
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS SHOULD BE CONDUCIVE FOR SOME DEVELOPMENT
OF THIS LOW. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 0 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A MEDIUM
CHANCE...30 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 5 DAYS. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS ARE
POSSIBLE OVER PORTIONS OF EASTERN MEXICO LATER THIS WEEK.
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#117 Postby Alyono » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:48 pm

I'd recommend changing the title to NHC 0/30%... when the chances may in fact be much higher
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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#118 Postby baytownwx » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:53 pm

Levi Cowan tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/tropicaltidbits/status/377117079721103360

@TropicalTidbits: GFS shows TC in W GOM in 5-7 days. Will be interesting to see how far north it can sneak w/ shortwave to the north.
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Re: Development in SW Gulf or Bay of Campeche: 0% / 30%

#119 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:56 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:exactly you can't trust shear runs when its next weekend and etc, all my weather buddies would even tell me that!!


Using that logic, you can't trust model projections of development, either. I think that a storm is very likely to form (maybe triple the NHC's 5-day chances) and if it is over water for more than 24hrs as a TS then it could easily become a hurricane. But it still looks like wind shear would be quite strong along the TX coast. I don't think it's going to hit the TX coast, though, so the wind shear won't be as much of an issue farther south.
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#120 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:12 pm

Question..Claudette was a creeper along the Texas Coast...what caused her to do that? I forget...
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